TBC Delayed for polish - Page 5

Gage · 10-25-2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ECFAN

i personally would like to see a high end guild on eq2 transfer over to WoW see how well they perform.

Hmm...

http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.asp...16&TabID=72120

Ascendance - went from World Firsting the first two adventure pack bosses and Spirits of the Lost to quitting right before DoF and moving as a guild to WoW.

They're now in Naxx... I suck with WoW so not sure how far they are, but doesn't look like they've beat the Four Horsemen yet, /shrug.

Pinski · 10-25-2006, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MorDecai

As an alchemist in EQ2, I remember having to make resist potions, etc for tanks so we could beat some encounters. How is this any different at all? It still required farming, it's the same fucking thing.

Regardless of people liking the game or not, my comment was more in farce than anything. GG making it something it wasn't.

You do know how you are comparing very little of requirement to a huge requirement. Talk to any guild in EQ2 and they'll say, sure we use maybe a few potions of clarity, but compared to what you need in WoW, it's laughable. Most raids in WoW cost 10 gold per person, so that's 400 gold per raid, per time you die. So say you die about 4 times, that's 40 gold for you alone, and over 1600 gold for the entire raid. Now since this is in WoW gold, it's something like 10 gold for $2, compared to $2 for 1 plat. So does your guild pay 160 plat a night to raid high-end content? Shit, does your guild even spend more than 30 plat a night to raid? If they are, then you obviously suck ass at life.

MorDecai · 10-25-2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

You do know how you are comparing very little of requirement to a huge requirement. Talk to any guild in EQ2 and they'll say, sure we use maybe a few potions of clarity, but compared to what you need in WoW, it's laughable. Most raids in WoW cost 10 gold per person, so that's 400 gold per raid, per time you die. So say you die about 4 times, that's 40 gold for you alone, and over 1600 gold for the entire raid. Now since this is in WoW gold, it's something like 10 gold for $2, compared to $2 for 1 plat. So does your guild pay 160 plat a night to raid high-end content? Shit, does your guild even spend more than 30 plat a night to raid? If they are, then you obviously suck ass at life.

You're talking to a guy that led the quest series for the NA CoP expansion release in FFXI and spent over 300,000 gil (alot at the time, before the fucking bot inflation) on 1 fight. 4 times. Just to be the first to do it, which we were. My fucking videos are STILL famous for that.

40 gold is NOTHING for a level 60. N.O.T.H.I.N.G. Even trying to compare it to EQ2 plat is a sad attempt at some sort of rationalization for the expenditure.

If you can't spend money to do something right, then don't fucking do it and quit bitching about the requirements. I'm happy that shit in WoW requires this stuff, it makes the tactical implications a hell of alot more interesting. It sure as shit beats easy mode button mashing that most EQ2 raids are built on. If more guilds used potions for encounters, I'm sure you'd see huge improvements in their raiding quality. But no, people are cheap ass mother fuckers that would rather horde worthless plat to buy furniture or stupid ass pets for their house.

As for your guild comment, I don't play that shitty game anymore, but when I did, I was in the top raiding guild on the server which is now one of the top world guilds. So fuck off with your attempt at a slam.

Victicus · 10-25-2006, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MorDecai

You're talking to a guy that led the quest series for the NA CoP expansion release in FFXI and spent over 300,000 gil (alot at the time, before the fucking bot inflation) on 1 fight. 4 times. Just to be the first to do it, which we were. My fucking videos are STILL famous for that.

lol i could make 300k in a couple hours of farming before cop was released. Gil was fucking easy to make and completely worthless.

You could make more than 300k just getting the rare drop from the lvl 5 named mobs in the newbie zones.

Gold farming is much more time consuming in WoW, and from what i hear is a huge problem with most high end raiders having to resort to buying gold online to keep up with their guilds gold requirements.

The whole flasking thing in WoW is pretty dumb, and is only benefical to the online gold sellers. But go ahead you stupid WoW fanbois, say gold farming is so awesome and adds so much depth and player advancement to the game. Yea, really...

MorDecai · 10-25-2006, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Victicus

lol i could make 300k in a couple hours of farming before cop was released. Gil was fucking easy to make and completely worthless.

You could make more than 300k just getting the rare drop from the lvl 5 named mobs in the newbie zones.

Gold farming is much more time consuming in WoW, and from what i hear is a huge problem with most high end raiders having to resort to buying gold online to keep up with their guilds gold requirements.

The whole flasking thing in WoW is pretty dumb, and is only benefical to the online gold sellers. But go ahead you stupid WoW fanbois, say gold farming is so awesome and adds so much depth and player advancement to the game. Yea, really...

My point, sir fuck face, was that I spent the money and didn't complain, not that it was hard or easy to get money in that game. I had 3 million gil at the time when most NA's didn't even have 300k.

300k in pots at the time was ludicrous to spend to have to beat a BCNM, but we didn't whine about it. It was what was necessary to beat the encounter.

Arbaal · 10-25-2006, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

You do know how you are comparing very little of requirement to a huge requirement. Talk to any guild in EQ2 and they'll say, sure we use maybe a few potions of clarity, but compared to what you need in WoW, it's laughable. Most raids in WoW cost 10 gold per person, so that's 400 gold per raid, per time you die. So say you die about 4 times, that's 40 gold for you alone, and over 1600 gold for the entire raid. Now since this is in WoW gold, it's something like 10 gold for $2, compared to $2 for 1 plat. So does your guild pay 160 plat a night to raid high-end content? Shit, does your guild even spend more than 30 plat a night to raid? If they are, then you obviously suck ass at life.

Your money comparision is way off.....

The dollar amount is like saying well a grape costs this much and an orange costs this much so there for 2 grapes = an orange

The reason why wow money is worth more is cause eq2 communitiy is tiny compared to wow's massive 52% of the whole MMO market more people = more demand since the price of things is static... also wow actually has an economy...

And you can't compare Eq2s raid zones to wow.... You take ALL of eq2s patched raids zones and they would fit inside naxx/aq40 and the big kicker is they all don't share 3 zone skins...

ECFAN · 10-25-2006, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

Or it's just because they don't like the gameplay? Some people have tried WoW, and didn't like it. Just like people don't like EQ2's gameplay, people don't like WoW's gameplay. Not to mention, WoW's knack for requiring massive farming of mats and other material for flasking. Farming a raid instance to advance raiding is one thing, farming a ground spawn in the open solo to advance raiding is completely retarded.

i agree with you on the gameplay part, people have different style of plays.

i remember in other wow posting we had before, people mention wow was EASY MODE...and here you have to actually farm your own mats for resist gear and enchants...putting in time and effort so you could be able to raid in a certian zone or take on a certian boss. keep in mind even with these gear, the fights are still difficult.

now i ask you, what is easy mode, farming your own shit so you could be able to raid a zone and advance, or raid a zone without any access quest requirement and advance off the loots from that zone?

ECFAN · 10-25-2006, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

June 2006 is when 1.11 went live, which added the 4-horsemen encounter in Naxxramas. February 2006 is when KoS went live, which added the 3-Princes encounter. Who ripped who off?

i was told that in eof we will get to wear a cloak...something wow has since day one....who ripped who off?

Victicus · 10-25-2006, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MorDecai

300k in pots at the time was ludicrous to spend to have to beat a BCNM, but we didn't whine about it. It was what was necessary to beat the encounter.

You didnt whine about it because gil was easy to make dumbass. When you have raiders buying gold online just so they can complete a raid encounter something is really wrong.

ECFAN · 10-25-2006, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Victicus

You didnt whine about it because gil was easy to make dumbass. When you have raiders buying gold online just so they can complete a raid encounter something is really wrong.

of course it is, 5mil gil for 30 bucks on ige.