Tater

But yet you come here to reply to him, interesting.

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arieste

Vanguard failed because of an outdated design philosophy (corpse recovery, 3 hours to get anywhere, poor use of instancing), shit graphics (casting animations make stick figures look good), lack of innovation (pretty much same combat system as every game since EQ1) and unfinished content (empty high level zones, no diplomacy past level 10 on launch, no raids, etc.)

On top of that there were some bugs and performance issues, but these didn't really effect my gameplay to any serious extent, just the game wasn't fun, interesting or new.

According to your experience in AoC beta, how is it similar? Because there is a post not far above yours about everything in beta looking quite good. So I am not sure if y'all are playing the same beta or what.

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Tudana

I am intreged with readings on AOC - some of the things its going to offer seem really neat and new to me. The night solo character questing to lv 20. This would really bring a player into the character if I am understanding it right. this is a great idea.

The combat is different for me, I have only EQ/daoc/Vanguard back ground so something new is good for me.

I`m not keen on pvp - I did like the battle grounds in DAOC so if the siege is near to something like that I would have a blast with it im sure. - but being pvp`ed at lv1-5 from stepping out of my trainers hut will only piss me off and the game will be uninstalled.

with saying all this, I am however very skittish on any "new release" after the relationship I had with vanguard beta through launch...my "cup of trust" has turned into a "bucket of What the Fuck!?" I dont want to "believe" in words/promises any more so I will wait for aoc to release and see for myself.

arieste

As much as I'm looking forward to this game, I woudln't put too much stock into the "single-player" thing. In reality, this is something already done by most MMOs on the market, EVE, EQ2, LoTRO, Vanguard, etc. all have lengthy and heavily scripted solo experiences for their low levels. Sure, some of them take place in a shared world, but from a gameplay perspective, in almost every game the first 20 hours or so are spent alone. It's nice to see FC "officially" embrace this and make it even more special, but it's not nearly as groundbreaking as they are making it sound.

As far as PvP goes, if you're playing on a regular server, you only need to worry about PvP in the Border Kingdom areas (which are devoted to PvP and land control), you don't have to worry about benig killed by every random noob on every corner or ganked while you're trying to get a quest update. Items will also have separate PvE and PvP stats, which will (hopefully) work wonders for balance.

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Safia

I can't say much under the circumstances but..the game gets better and better and better by the day sometimes..as they add in things and polish things..and in the last few months I personally have gone from reporting probably 10 bugs a night to maybe 2 a week. They are ON TOP of feedback in a BIG WAY..I've been really impressed with that. Not a single video out on this game does it justice right now..it is beyond anything you're seeing on youtube.

The combat system is fun and at times challenging without being ridiculously difficult. The armor and models and scenary own eq2 in the face..and it's hella fun whether you are soloing or grouping. Havent seen end game stuff havent gotten high enough yet, and I opted out of trying out the pvp cause I'm finally sick of it after two years on Naggy. :P

You will NOT be disappointed when this game launchs.

Grind

Is the Combat system still click to attack. Or is there an autoattack?

If there's no auto-attack 95% of the eq2 population will hate the game because they cant afk-autoattack mooch their way to end game.

The game could shit gold bricks and people would still hate it because of this.

Gage

Woah calm down Grind, that hurts my feelings.

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Gnomercy

The "no auto attack" was one of the things that had me pre-order. After watching the HD videos of the dungeon crawl they did I am excited to try it out myself.

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Khalan

I'm definitely going to pick it up to try but not banking too much on it.

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Pinski

That's not what Skratch told me!

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