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Old 01-26-2008, 01:30 PM  
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Kalley was wrong….

First off I want to say that I have known both Kalley and Ruhl for awhile. I was in NSS and in Vent when all of this drama went down, and I followed Kalley and the others to the new guild. I did so without knowing the real story, I just wanted to raid. Since most of the people were following Kalley and Baalze, I just jumped on the bandwagon and went along. Looking back now, I realized I made a mistake.

I am now stuck in a guild that is full of drama and has potential to become Eternal Odyssey part 2. Why am I stuck here? Due to my raid times now, there is no other guild on the server with raids times that fit my schedule. I would leave my guild in a second, but I have no other options. Looking back, I wish things had worked out different. Ruhl is a damn good guy and did not deserve the drama Kalley caused.

Kalley has always had problems trusting men. This probably stems from the fact that her husband left her. I can see why she did not trust Ruhl when he came back. She wanted to keep tight control over NSS and do what she could to wrestle Ruhl under her control. I am not sure why she wanted to do this, considering Ruhl trusted her not only with the guild, but his account. What a nice fucking way to return the favor Kalley.

I was not in NSS when Ruhl left. I joined up afterwards. From talking to the older members, I came to find out that when the first time elections where held, Kalley was not voted as leader. The election results where then tossed out, and Kalley attached her name to Heailer’s in order to get elected. The charter was then rewritten to establish a co-leadership structure.

All of us that followed Kalley blindly to this new guild should have gotten the whole truth before we did what we did. Sure Orcid made a nice speech on vent and was able to persuade public opinion, but it is only after the fact that we can get the whole truth. Right down to the end, Ruhl was willing to work with Kalley. Few people probably noticed that during the end of the vent drama, Ruhl actually promoted Kalley back to leader and said he was willing to work with her. However,

Kalley wanted nothing to do with that, she wanted to be sole leader, have the guild under her control, and make changes to the guild she did not even create. Kalley said she did not want to work with Ruhl becuase the guild name of NSS was tainted. I say here and now that it is Kalley's name that is tainted, not NSS. It was her unwillingness to do the right thing, act responsible and work with the founder of the guild that tainted her name.

I have found that people blindly follow other people in this game, and whoever is able to persuade public opinion the best, usually causes the most drama in the game. Looking at the basic accomplishments of Kalley and Ruhl, one can clearly see that Ruhl was the better leader and Kalley is a manipulative bitch that was not willing to work together with the founder and the person who created the guild.

Sure Kalley and Orcid invited a few players into the guild after Ruhl left. But how in the world does 2-3 weeks of work, outweigh the 6 months of work that Ruhl did. This is the part I do not understand. I mean really how hard is it to put together a few pickup raids, and throw out a bunch of guild invites. I did not know Baalze and his crew, but didn’t he just fuck up another guild before he joined NSS?

I can see valid points from both sides of the story. However, Kalley and the officers were completely wrong for treating Ruhl the way they did when he returned. I think you all was under Kalley’s charm, and was not thinking clearly. For you to turn your back on your friend, the founder of the guild and the person that clearly had more experience to lead a guild was very wrong. You can say what you want, but there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for him to serve as officer first to “get to know” the new members. Everyone in the guild just wanted to raid, and a simple letter from Kalley saying “Ruhl is back and is going to be co-leader with me” would have worked just fine. But she did not do this; instead she used the officers to her advantage. She did not even have the balls to tell Ruhl she did not want him to be co-leader, she wanted to convince to council to do it, so she could hide behind the election results and play the part of victim.

Kalley has always been a drama queen, and many of you did not know that. I can see why Ruhl and Healier did what they did. NSS was on its way to becoming Eternal Odyssey part 2. If they did not take NSS back over when they did, it was only a matter of time before Kalley got the balls to demote Healier as co-leader and turn NSS into a fucking drama marathon.

Orcid mentioned on vent that Ruhl jumped onto Kalley in an officer meeting. I thought this was a little weird and seemed a little out of character for Ruhl. He always said what was on his mind, but never personally attacked anyone. So I called up Ruhl to get the real story. There was an officer meeting and Ruhl did jump Kalley’s ass. But it was for a good damn reason. In the meeting the officers had just decided that Ruhl should be officer first, before becoming leader. However, Ruhl and a few others knew that this would never happen. It was only a matter of time before Kalley found a reason to boot him from his guild. Kalley mentioned to Ruhl, who was playing OFF-Tank role at the time, that he needed to target to MT. What a fucking retarded thing to do. Anyone with enough sense to lead a guild should know better than that. That is why Ruhl jumped her ass, which was clearly deserved. I mean, how can you explain something as basic as that?

Also, another simple fact that led up to this drama was the guild website. Ruhl put a lot of time and effort into building the website and he made a simple request to get access back to the website. Of course Kalley said no, she wanted it under her control, and she was not even paying for the goddamn thing, Healier was. Why deny access to the website to Ruhl when he created the thing, spent hours of his time working on it, and put 99.9% of all the content there. Once again, this was Kalley's attempt to seize complete control of the guild.

I wish things had worked out different and things could have been resolved. I would rather have seen Ruhl as leader myself, but I was forced to follow Kalley to her new guild in order to raid. Ruhl was a great leader and was able to inspire people to get shit done. Kalley is a woman and is more worried about making sure everyone gets along and is happy, while maintaining tight control on shit that does not matter. She has issues trusting men and that is one of her major flaws. She could have worked out things with Ruhl one on one, and avoided all this shit. I have never known anyone more willing to work shit out than Ruhl.

I enjoy the fact that I know the whole story now, and if another guild pops up on this server which raids on PST times, I am going to give it a try. I see my current guild going no where fast and quite frankly the leadership sucks. They have great ideas about a lot of things, but there is no one there who is ready to cut out all of the bullshit and get things done. That was Ruhl’s best quality.

So while I set here, voting on shit, not knowing quite sure what I am voting about, I am starting to wonder why I am still here in this guild. I could care less about voting as to whether someone should or should not be able to join the guild. As long as they show up for the raids I could fucking care less about the rest.

I told Ruhl I was going to write this and he asked me not too. He always liked avoiding the drama and that was another one of his good qualities. However, I feel as if I needed to stand up and say something on his part. What happened to him was really wrong, and Kalley has a bad side that people should know about. Kalley’s true character will show sooner or later, and when it does you will see. She has been kicked from guilds before, and I am sure it will happen again. We always got along, but people do not know her as well as I do. She can be quite manipulative when she wants to be. If you see it coming you can avoid it.

Orcid that was real nice of your son to send that letter out to the guild about Ruhl containing all the vulgarities. I know for a fact that Ruhl only allowed your son into the guild out of respect to you and Natty. Anyone that would say such things I really do not want to be around. A big part of this drama fest could have been avoided had you not turned you back on your friend that welcomed you into guild when you and Natty transferred servers.

In the end, Ruhl and Kalley and the officers was all wrong. This all could have been avoided if Kalley had not been such a controlling bitch, and the council had exercised a little fucking sense. Sure Ruhl left the game and gave his account away. He gave it to someone he thought he could trust. I told him to give it to me, but I was not in the guild at the time. He said he was leaving the game for good, because the dude really did not know when he was coming back. It was hard to attach a time frame, hell he did not even know if he was coming back from Iraq alive.

Kalley and the officers did not want to pass leadership back to Ruhl when he returned. I can understand that point of view, however once serving in the military myself, I can see no problem with passing command back over. Kalley turn the guild into something different and she was afraid Ruhl was going to change it all and undo her work, just like she undid his. What was the big deal with giving the guild back to Ruhl in the first place? He founded the guild, pushed it from level 0-60 (even if he did buy plat online), had the most status in the guild, and had been there longer then anyone.

I would like to ask the community here a question:
Let says you was in a guild and the leader had to leave the game due to work schedule and getting sent overseas to a war zone. He did not leave the guild, but instead gave his account to guild and told the members they could play his toon. Let’s also say that he would pass on leadership to whomever in the guild, once it was decided who the new leader should be. Let’s also assume that leader was you. Now, what if the guild leader comes back to the game? The same leader that founded the guild, lead the guild for a solid six months, took the guild from level 0 – 60 in right at six months, and did whatever he could to help his guild members out. Even paying for subscriptions fees for members and buying expansion packs for them as well. What if that leader comes back? Would you instantly pass leadership back to him, instantly share leadership with him, or would you make him wait in line so you could have time to flex your e-penis and completely change the guild around?

Kalley you and I have been friends for awhile. I even followed you to your new guild. However, I realized I made a mistake and I am stuck now. I think I just might quit playing now. I am sick of all the drama. You have stirred up drama before, and I know you are going to do it again. I was on your side with this matter right up until the end. The last thing you told Ruhl was “fuck you.” The guy did not even boot you from the guild when he could have. He was willing to work with you right up until the end, but I think you got a taste of power and liked it way too fucking much.

So Kalley, I am going to stay anonymous during this and stay in your guild. I am going to watch it turn into a fucking drama fest and hope that the fallout which will occur will spawn off into a better guild sometime soon. I honestly have no other choice if I want to raid.
For future reference, if you want to take over leadership of a guild and completely change things around, you might want to seal any backdoors. In my opinion, Healier exercised his right as a co-leader. The council may not have agreed with it, some of the members may not have agreed with it, but according to the system in place by SOE, he had the right to do what he did. You so easily accused Ruhl of spending money for plat online, which he probably did, who doesn’t? However, if you wish to play by the rules, how come when Healier exercised his right as co-leader according to SOE did you split up a guild? The best thing you could have done was stayed, worked with the people and kept the guild together. But I think you like the drama way too much. You always have…

Maybe this post will give you something good to talk about in officer chat during raids. I know you do it. I saw the logs from Ruhl’s raid with you. Kalley was in the Tomb of Thugga talking about how someone put her name on the most hated list for AB in officer chat. This was going on in the middle of a raid people. Sure we beat a bugged mob, sure everyone felt good, but you were talking about drama in the middle of a raid instead of focusing on the raid itself.

I can see our guild going nowhere other than down Drama Lane. I am going to try to convince Ruhl to come back but I doubt he will. If you are interested in raiding 3 to 4 days a week at 11pm est., please let me know. I pretty sure we can get Ruhl back and get NSS back up and running.

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Old 01-26-2008, 02:31 PM  
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Basically to sum it up,

Kalley is a fucking cunt.

Having the balls to kick me from a raid because of my name?

Fuck that bitch, she can eat a fucking dick.

Edit: It was me who put her name on the most hated list. Go figure.
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Well the first mistake was inviting Baalz to the guild. He has done this to every guild he has been in. I believe I even asked in a previous post how long it would be before he schemed to get NSS members to leave for another guild and yes he did the same thing in Inquisition and Fated. He has lots of excuses and lays the blame anywhere but on himself, but in the end gets absolutely no where then leaves because "Its not his fault"

Ruhl was a cool dude, it sucks he got hijacked out of his guild and my best goes out to him. In the end, VF will fail and be just another EO on the server, getting no where and doing nothing and putting a bad taste for raiding in more peoples mouths.
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Old 01-26-2008, 05:48 PM  
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Well that was way too long. Anyway, whats this post about? Dookie raids with EO?! ZOMG.
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Old 01-26-2008, 07:00 PM  
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It's just a QQ Sob story where Ruhl came back out of butt fuck nowehere and expected to have leadership back. 90% of NSS are new members and didn't like the thought of some random stranger taking over so they left with Kalley cause we know Kalley can get shit done.

As far as the rest of the drama goes...well whatever...it's a two sided story. No one was bought or persuaded into either side of this most of NSS left on their own terms and joined VF for the raiding. It's the exact same guild just a different name and a lot less baggage.

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P.S. Baalz had nothing to do with this...beef was between Ruhl and Kalley. Said beef no one really gave a shit about they just didnt want some random taking over. Hence why we all left, we just conviniently had VF sitting on the back burner.

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Calum you fucking pussy step up the plate if you're gunna talk shit. Don't come join us if you don't see eye to eye either.
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Old 01-27-2008, 12:01 AM  
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well ill be honest i didnt even read this post
but ill give it a half a thumb up for being the LONGEST POST EVAR!
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Ok first time I have ever posted here, and the retards of the new guild just booted me for saying I wrote that crap. Hell, I didnt even know Ruhl. I betrayed my 80 berserker to a guardian because one of the guild leaders said he needed 2 guards for a raid....WTF...But, ya know, I'm glad I'm not there anymore, because frankly, IMHO, I felt if you were not in the "Circle of Bitches" you wernt shit in that guild. Anyway, peace.
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There is no circle of bitches dude....everyone here except like...5 people...is just as new as you...they just don't pull whiney bitch moves. I understand its rough shit to be a 2nd or 3rd string tank warming up the bench, but whatever get over it. Being a bitter little ass hat about it wasn't a cool move. I'm not surprised to find out it was you because you were always whining about something or another. Whether it came to your huge failure at tanking or how you'd like to piss and moan about your "DPS" as a fighter compared to a raid MT.

I'm just glad you got called on it, when idiots get caught hey? Now you can eat your own words instead of playing the dickless piece of shit hiding behind the curtains and fake forum accounts to try and talk shit. Enjoy your time with Ruhl....oh wait...my bad.

P.S. - You were IP tracked on vent servers thats how you were found out.
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Old 01-27-2008, 02:47 AM  
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So...since no one else has done it yet...i'm going to dissect the OP.

First off...you say you've known Kalley for a long time, yet your knowledge of her personal life is so innaccurate it's laughable. For the record Kalley left her husband. And as far as not trusting men, well i've been in a relationship with kalley for nearly two years, and have lived with her for the past year and have never experianced any mis-trust.

Kalley did not tell Ruhl that he couldn't be co-leader. Being that i listen to her talk while she's in vent, or can lean over and read her screen i know this first hand. Logs can be altered. Kalley wanted Ruhl to serve as an officer for a weeks for two reasons. The first was, as Vendela said, 90% of the guild she recruited (or her officers did) they didn't know Ruhl, and she felt it would be smoother for them to get to know them as an officer than a leader. Second, Healier was still in the posistion as co-leader. He wasn't able to log in for most of Ruhl's absence due to a real life issue, but Kalley didn't want to demote him without speaking to him.

As far as the elections...again you prove your lack of knowledge on this matter. There where two votes. The first was to decide if the guild would have one or two leaders. Most felt comfortable having two leaders. Then, all the officers where listed singulary in two threads...which lead to confusion. People where supposed to vote for two different people, on inf the fiorst, another in second. After two days it was obvious that some where voting only in one thread...or voting for the same person twice. The officers decided to scrap that poll and start fresh by pair the 4 officer into every concievable pairing and asked the guild to vote on which pair they liked the best. Which was Kalley and Healier.

I'm going to re-state a point here. Kalley in fact Fully intended to make Ruhl co-leader. She just wanted him to serve as an officer for the guild to get to know him. Apparently Ruhl didn't like that so he went for more underhanded means.

Ruhl had been back maybe a week, and during this time Kalley was trying to reach Healier but couldn't get him on the phone. Then she woke up one morning to find herself demoted and Ruhl the sole leader. Seems Ruhl spoke to healier and convinced him to log in, after kalley went to bed, and do this for him.

Underhanded if you ask me.

See what happened? Kalley was fine with being co-leader after a brief introductry period, and Ruhl not only snuck behind her back for leadership. But he in fact made himself the sole leader of the guild.

Quite the opposite of your inaccurate, yet entertaining version. I guess yours is the "Inspired by actual events" version.

And Udoaka...you weren't kicked for your name, you where kicked for your immaturity and the fact that you where invited as a guest on a raid i led, and where a dumbass. While people who generally act like retards use the defense of "It's only a game" you gotta remember that people will form an opinion without ever knowing you. Since i told her your a retard, in her eyes your a retard.

Have fun on the new server, glad to be rid of you
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