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09-05-2007, 10:58 AM
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Re: CA order in raids
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Originally Posted by xunen
Since they revamped all AAs. Was GU 36 or 37, don't know which of them.
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Yeah was patched with GU37 I think. All 2nd tier abilities in KoS AA tree got the shared recast timers removed. Neat change.
As for casting order, I think there are several threads in this section where you can read what people have to say about that. And I can't add much to what the posters above already stated.
Edit: Added link
http://www.eq2flames.com/assassins/6...tml#post145503
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09-05-2007, 11:37 AM
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Character: Voxin
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Re: CA order in raids
Ah fucko im such a dumbass sometimes >.> i thought youre intox > CA was saying intox was better than cloaked assault please disregard my retard post.
My sincerest apologies
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09-05-2007, 01:53 PM
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Some Noob.
Character: Relax
Guild: Henches and Wenches.
Server: Lucan D'lere
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Re: CA order in raids
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Originally Posted by Baalkon
Ah fucko im such a dumbass sometimes >.> i thought youre intox > CA was saying intox was better than cloaked assault please disregard my retard post.
My sincerest apologies
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Ahahah, naw, I was just thinking two things at once =p
Meant like intox -> CA :P
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09-05-2007, 05:24 PM
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And this time, Don't Suck!
Character: Tool
Guild: Amoral Fellowship
Server: Mistmoore
Posts: 9,366
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Re: CA order in raids
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Originally Posted by Legate
For me,
Intox > Cloaed assault, we dont have a trouby  But exacting, everything thats > 1 minute timer (dots, malignant mark, puncture blade/masked attack,debuffs,etc.) concealment included, all my backstabs, rinse and repeat as things come up
Voxin got the right idea with masked attack and puncture,
If yah get knocked back, toggle ranged auto attack and start one of your bow ca's on the way back in.
Finishing blow, etc..
Although really I've never met a REALLY crappy assassin.....ever
and as far as I've seen you can parse high 1000's with just spam tactics..
With my cast order I usually parse 2K + though easy.
And thats with my gimp gear. EverQuest II Players
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Are those ZW numbers or individual fights? You shoulda met me when i first hit 70. In master crafted gear ... can't even remember what weapons I used. I was doing like 500 ish on good fights and around 350 for zonewides. This was in kos zones, mostly labs. But I'm way better than that now (before anyone asks ... shutup, I am).
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09-06-2007, 04:59 PM
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And this time, Don't Suck!
Character: Tool
Guild: Amoral Fellowship
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Re: CA order in raids
I am str/wis spec'd. So here is my CA order, any suggestions (other than switching back to str/int)?
Always start out in stealth and use Cloaked Assault to start fight unless we have someone trying to keep all adds mezzed (which is rare on a raid).
Then enmesh and malignant mark
Then i push my HO macro which is Lucky break>enmesh (or constriction)>scraping blow
Then, my other 2 dots, deadly and flowing wound (I think thats thier names)
then the masked>puncture macro
Then Surveil and slaughterassault if there are multiple mobs, otherwise eviscerate
Stealth>crippling
Placating strike
Surveil > decap or killing blade
After this, it gets fuzzy. Basically I follow these rules. Any time MM is up, it gets thrown. If stealth or surveil are available, I hit it and throw a backstab (cloaked assault gets preference esp while there are multiple mobs still up). if I don't have a backstab, I use one of my regular attacks (cause the 8% bonus is good for any melee attack and I have all the 'regular' attacks macro'd to the same button) If my HO is available, I hit that macro. if both wound CAs are available, I throw them on again. If ever I am in doubt about what to do next, I hit the masked > puncture macro. With a 10 second refresh its usually there for me. If all my refresh timers are currently down (which only happens on names it seems) I step back a couple steps and run through my ranged CAs.
I only mash elude or smokebomb if I have aggro.
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09-06-2007, 05:22 PM
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And this time, Don't Suck!
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Re: CA order in raids
I forgot that after the HO macro (usually, unless I forget) I use a temp buff. Exacting, Honed, or the dps buff, in that order, the first one that is available.
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09-06-2007, 06:47 PM
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Character: Squitch/Squinky/Klinko
Guild: Fate
Server: Runnyeye
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Re: CA order in raids
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Originally Posted by Legate
Although really I've never met a REALLY crappy assassin.....ever
and as far as I've seen you can parse high 1000's with just spam tactics..
With my cast order I usually parse 2K + though easy.
And thats with my gimp gear. EverQuest II Players
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I have, assassin with GDoH, DoN and plenty of fabled gear, struggled to beat 600dps.
That was a while before eof. I still have nightmares.
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09-06-2007, 10:47 PM
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Some Noob.
Character: Relax
Guild: Henches and Wenches.
Server: Lucan D'lere
Posts: 408
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Re: CA order in raids
Wow
No, thats individual fights.. zonewides are anywhere from 1800-2600... MT group, setup = Assassin (me), Zerker, dirge warden, etc. :P
Hmm, alot of your dps problems might stem from taking the WIS line..
Is there seriously alot of assassins that are having trouble with parsing over 1000?
I'de be embarassed, (No offence intended).
And about the conealment and stuff not being included in exacting. Your right, was a bad call on my end, got confused naming my cast setup, was editing it and deleted some stuff and forgot to reformat it lol
Although my Assassin wasn't 70 in KoS (He's just an alt I recently leveled) I tried my best to get my EoF set gear. (Which was easily replaced with less shitty stuff hehehe.) Legendary set that is. heh
Last edited by Legate; 09-06-2007 at 10:50 PM.
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09-07-2007, 04:38 AM
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Regular
Character: Squitch/Squinky/Klinko
Guild: Fate
Server: Runnyeye
Posts: 232
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Re: CA order in raids
Wasn't me, "I have" was stating that I had met one :P
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09-07-2007, 09:02 AM
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Some Noob.
Character: Relax
Guild: Henches and Wenches.
Server: Lucan D'lere
Posts: 408
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Re: CA order in raids
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Originally Posted by Steelbadger
Wasn't me, "I have" was stating that I had met one :P
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The comment was more pointed towards the other guys post. I knew what you meant.
It kills me when I see people that suck so bad yet get that gear.
I mean, I consider myself at least a halfway decent assassin, and things like hitting 3.6 K DPS on a labs named fight made me wish I'de get some loot 
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