timmeh

I hope our CAs etc. get upgraded because one thing's for sure.. Rogues and Rangers are going to get a bigger upgrade from their KOS and EOF lines than we are.

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Gonzo

When I first heard of the AA change with RoK, I thought they were either bringing in a Class Tree or a Raid Specific Tree. I would rather have that than 40 extra points. The AA tree is cool because it adds alittle customization to your class but with 40 more points there is gonna be even less diversity.

Think KoS tree will be:

STR: 8,8,4,8,2
INT: 8,4,4,8,2
STA: 4,4,8

EoF:

Bleeding
Impale:5
Malignant Mark: 3
Hidden Assault: 5

Tricks
Cheap Shot: 3
Torture: 3
Cut Throat: 4
Cripple: 5
Mastery Strike: 5
Repeated Stabbing: 1

Physicality
Honed Reflexes: 4
Murderous Focus: 5
Exacting: 5

Poison
Spikes :5
Hemotoxin: 5
Attribute: 5
Apply Poison: 5
Frontload: 1

Thats my plan so far but I am still tweaking with it. With our Hate transfers not getting upgraded, I am thinking Ignorant Bliss needs some points. Also don't really like the idea of putting 6 points into Cheap Shot and Torture to get Honed Reflexes, so I am working with that as well.

Raina

You are going to want to get Surrounding Attacks from the STA line. Take 4 out of Bladed Opening and 4 out of Max health and put 8 in Surrounding Attacks.

Also you have 72 Points alotted there in the predator tree and you can only have 70.
Try
Bounty: 1
STR: 64482
STA: 4448
INT: 74482
=70

Youll have an extra point in Assassin tree, put in Honed Reflexes to make 5 there. Take the 3 out of Malignant Mark and put them in Freezing Strike. Malignant Mark AA doesnt really do anything for you. Unless you play PvP, but even then Im not sure. If you want to keep it in Malignant Mark its up to you, but not really worth it.

curuw

plz tell me where brigands get a big upgrade

timmeh

Sure. Your KOS tree upgrade will be better than ours. Additionally, every class in the game has a better EOF tree than assassins.

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palantiri

think were better off than rogues, at least on kos tree

Chox

Well rogues will be able to now go 1hder, pirate line, and have melee crits. Which trumps our % to hurricane.

*EDIT: I misspelled rogues... I know that incites the flamage.*

Cochy

Except that currently duel wields are better than 1 handers and essentially makes that line worthless. Assassins fared the best out of the DPS scouts from the new AA changes. Rangers won't be bad as they get both extension and preservation but as far as KOS trees go we fared the best.

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Gonzo

Argh! I hate Bounty.

KoS:

Bounty: 1
STR: 8,8,4,8,2
STA: 4,4,6
INT: 7,4,4,8,2

Yeah I have thought about Surrounding Attack but really my main concern comes down to it's limitations or what I feel they might be.

* 16% trigger chance
* On targets 3-5 CON higher than me, my accuracy is about 80-90%
* Only 35% of my damage output is from Melee
* Only Primary Weapon can trigger effect (50% of melee attacks)
* Combat Arts can not trigger this effect

To me, adding all those up really makes it questionable IMO. Also when fighting anything tough it is usually just that mob. If your pulling groups it's definitely not all that stressful and do you really need the tiny extra DPS?? In certain situations it's awesome and we'll have to see how often that will be when RoK arrives. However where is the merit in all around usability? My issue right now is I have good STR, AGI, and INT but my Health and Stamina blows.

I am definitely going to try it out, and see if I like it. Same as Malignant Mark, I know most say it's worthless but in groups it's the fucking shit. I know in raids it's worthless to have anything in it, but on group parses, 5 points (what I have now) is adding 4-5% to my parse and I can easily hit 1-1.5k (depending on buffs) zonewide in groups. Not using anything good for gear either (not even 70 yet).

Points in Freezing Strike, I need to know why that is useful?? I have yet to see the root last it's full duration, so why make it longer?

About the difference of assassins verse other classes, I'm not sure 1 class made out much better but alot of other classes got alot more options. We really don't have that, we got STR/INT and now STA. Rogues got more options which IMO is powerful in it's own right and always an upgrade.

Zyco

What is the percentage chance of Surrounding Attack with 8 points in it?
Is it 28% (3.5*8) or does the percentage gained change with each point?