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Old 10-25-2007, 04:31 AM  
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wow were to start planar orb adds 30ish dps for me on just about any given night and is still easy in the top 3 dps earrings not factoring in the 4 pierceing.

so yea you must have shitty str for 32str to add so much to a ca but guess what on raids you get more str from other classes so acting like the str even means that much is stupid hell.

No resists lol theres no mob in game i switch gear out for resists on but ok you think you need more resists to survive theres nothing stopping you form switching it back in for trash but seriously how many mobs have aes that one shot you and the ones that do you usually joust anyway.

yea its level 62 but gratz soe itemization.
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:37 AM  
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I petitioned SOE to get mine back, you can only do that once per character, its that good :P
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:46 AM  
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It depends where you are on the curve. If your just starting raiding - then the str may be more of a viable option.. But otherwise if you have 600+ str its better for you to get the planar earing.
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LOL @ wartooth > orb
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:08 PM  
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wow were to start planar orb adds 30ish dps for me on just about any given night and is still easy in the top 3 dps earrings not factoring in the 4 pierceing.

so yea you must have shitty str for 32str to add so much to a ca but guess what on raids you get more str from other classes so acting like the str even means that much is stupid hell.

No resists lol theres no mob in game i switch gear out for resists on but ok you think you need more resists to survive theres nothing stopping you form switching it back in for trash but seriously how many mobs have aes that one shot you and the ones that do you usually joust anyway.

yea its level 62 but gratz soe itemization.
30ish DPS right?? I'm guessing you missed the ZW wide insertion which to any true raid assassin thats the only number to look at. Whatever, let me continue. That means the two times it triggers, it would have to give you 1800 damage. For a earring that procs most of the time 150 (average) damage 3 times thats pretty AMAZING. I'll even go to say 200 3 times, thats 600 2 times a minute, which is 1200 damage. Still missing 600 damage. Did you get this earring off the same guy that sold Jack his beanstock beans??? If your using Frontload for your COMPLETELY UNBELIEVABLE 30DPS, I hope you aint using it just for this earring. Come on man, go look at your parse again.

As for your concerns on STR in a raid, reread the post. I said for any toon at the level which might consider between these two items, STR is more important. Obviously they don't hit 800-900 STR in a raid. If you have a solid raid to run with, then I am guess you have some better items. Earring of League Guardians for one, Death's Trace for 2, and I could contiue on. Which loosely translated for those who don't understand, Uber gear toons which raid and have acquired better gear. At 70 you have access to alot more items. For a toon in all EoF Fabled, why would you even consider this earring?? Please enlighten me with some facts that prove the greatness of this earring.

If you are a Raid Assassin and you gots your Uber gear, I would think increasing Melee Crit is indefinitely more important.

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Old 10-25-2007, 01:33 PM  
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And what earrings that most people can get are better than 25-30 dps? If you're doing 3k dps, that's 1% of your total. If you have a templar as well as a dirge it will go up.

Are you suggesting 30 str on another earring would be worth 30 dps? O_o

People need to realize that 30 dps may not sound like a lot, but in terms of relative improvement that's pretty large.
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(...) Earring of League Guardians for one, Death's Trace for 2, and I could contiue on. Which loosely translated for those who don't understand, Uber gear toons which raid and have acquired better gear. At 70 you have access to alot more items. For a toon in all EoF Fabled, why would you even consider this earring?? Please enlighten me with some facts that prove the greatness of this earring. (...)
Simple, it's a proc you didn't have before equipping it. Out of the two slots one is uncontested. It's for the league earring. The other slot, unless you have Queen's Tear *and* Ring of Tunarian Might, is better suited for Planar Orb or Relic hunter's solitaire.

Death's Trance is not better by a long shot. A few to hit modifiers are meaningless, you can be at the cap during raids by hitting Swindler's Luck and your dirge. What other earrings are out there? Wuoshi's earring? Useless, we are already past the soft dps cap self buffed and with adornments. Ellani's earring? Same deal as Wuoshi's. Freethinker's? We aren't tanks. Chel'Drak's? Read the comments on the previous earring. Matron's maybe? What for, stats? Nowadays it's so easy to raise them it's meaningless. Avatar is possibly the only one appealing to replace it with.

But in any case, there's very little gear *above* Planar Orb. I call that "I could continue on" bullshit simply because you stated Death's Trance is better.
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:41 PM  
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Show me the Orb doing 30 ZW DPS. I have never seen it go over 14 DPS ZW. And most of the time it sits under 10. If you can prove to me it hits even close to 30 DPS ZW, I would consider it legit. But all I hear is how STR doesn't matter. If thats the case replace a weapon for Dark Linger and have it. I am sure your DPS will show signifigant improvement. Similar Effect and Stats, and coincidently same level. You don't get High STR by using items with no STR on them.

If you look at character progression the Orb is great up until you can acquire better items, the only thing that sucks is in this time STR is normally NOT capped at this time. Haven't seen a 62-68 Assassin with a 650+ STR yet. At the time when you hit a softcap on STR, the Orb become slightly legit but AGAIN i have yet to see it ever hit much over 10 DPS, and at this point even the Ivy-Shrouded Earring of Tunare is just as good with +8 DPS. Not to meantion at this level once you hit a softcap on STR, + Melee Crit IMO is the next step to character development.

That's my point and final statement. I still have mine and if someone can show me how this thing can do 30 ZW DPS, I will gladly admit I am wrong but I just don't see it. The numbers don't add up no matter how I try to figure it out. Trust me I did, I love procs and really wanted to keep this but never saw any improvement of what I am using now or will in the future.
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If thats the case replace a weapon for Dark Linger and have it. I am sure your DPS will show signifigant improvement. Similar Effect and Stats, and coincidently same level.
Wrong. Not only you can't apply the same logic you use with jewelry to weapons you don't pick weapons because of stats, you pick them because of delay and spread. You would be replacing a weapon with awesome melee auto attack and delay (ie: GDoH, Soulfire Saber, Bisected Saber, Dagger of Purity, etc) for a complete piece of shit.

Nice going in failing at making a counter point~.

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Old 10-25-2007, 03:36 PM  
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Wrong. Not only you can't apply the same logic you use with jewelry to weapons you don't pick weapons because of stats, you pick them because of delay and spread. You would be replacing a weapon with awesome melee auto attack and delay (ie: GDoH, Soulfire Saber, Bisected Saber, Dagger of Purity, etc) for a complete piece of shit.

Nice going in failing at making a counter point~.
No sense of sarcasm eh? But thanx for showing me the difference between weapons I didnt known weapons weren't based on delay and damage spread. ((geez I hope you get this one))

So how bout the 30 ZW DPS Earring, Come ON!!!!!

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