Shit Groups (venting) - Page 4

Meta · 10-26-2007, 11:57 AM

/nod not saying it's perfect. Just that you can get by with what's on offer in that group.

Jayad · 10-26-2007, 02:32 PM

If you had troub+fury+mage procs and I had a dirge + some healer that's decent I certainly wouldn't lose in parses. What makes the mage group a good place to be is the haste and IA from illu combined with the troub buffs. Without those it's average at best. Average is a lot better than bad, but let's not confuse it with good.

Sure, you can say Tomb's and COB aren't huge, right? But those two combined will do more than all of your mage procs, plus keep you hasted half the time at least. (More than agitate certainly) Now you add on proc boost from the dirge, skill buffs and whatever your healer gives you and you're ahead. ***

*** I'm assuming 3 set boost on dirge

timmeh · 10-26-2007, 04:13 PM

I'm not sure agitate + troub haste group buff isn't more haste than just COB. Especially on long fights. Once agitate procs it usually stays proc'd.

Gonzo · 10-26-2007, 05:43 PM

Yeah right now I get:

Guardian (main-tank)
Templar
Fury
Mystic
Coercer
Me

yeah pretty retarded. I don't usually get Agitate because I out parse the MT by 1k almost every encounter. No dirge although we do have a troubador but he gets thrown into the Caster group. So I basically get no buffs aside from group buffs.

Jayad · 10-26-2007, 07:47 PM

There's no dirge in the raid at all?

Thorren · 10-26-2007, 10:59 PM

I'd take Mage group only if I got the IA/Agitate/Troub buffs, AND had a Warlock with Props.

Otherwise, yeah, dirge group ftw.

Gonzo · 10-26-2007, 11:35 PM

Dirge? NO!! I can write a 50 page rant on how much my raiding group sucks ass. Best are PUG's, and half of that is some good players and I'll leave it at that. Yeah right now I am pretty much limited to Labs and lyceum raids. To go anywhere else it is PUG, and yeah.

Jayad · 10-27-2007, 01:20 AM

If your guild doesn't even have ONE dirge.. that's just painful. Make some useless player play a dirge.. Hell have 3 useless players play dirges.

Ardain · 10-27-2007, 06:47 AM

Even boxing a Dirge and hitting Cacophony once in a while is better than no dirge :P.

Gonzo · 10-27-2007, 02:51 PM

My guild is small (less than 24 players) but soon we will have a dirge. As for him being raid ready, thats not coming anytime soon. Wish the Troub would just betray (if that would work) but we aren't like that. Anyway I'll making the best of what I got.

Oh, I hear the cries from the Battle gods above. Sad.