Shit Groups (venting)

Hoss · 10-25-2007, 02:17 AM

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Sonofabitch, I hate being in the scrub group. I think they messed up giving me a dirge the last couple of weeks, cause so far this week, I've raided twice and had a troub to buff me and thats it ... and fuck, life aint worth living like that. I seriously cannot believe how frustrating it is to go back to that once you've tasted the sweet life.

We were having more trouble with Prince thirneg than we did the last time (which was our first kill) and they couldn't figure out what we were doing so differently. I was like umm, maybe cause we got 2 dirges, they were in the MT and ST group, and they were buffing a grand total of 3 meleers? Meanwhile, you got 2 assassins, a ranger, and a brig (who left and was replaced by a swashie, I wouldn't be too surprised if he left cause he lost the dirge) begging for illusionist buffs. We weren't even all in the same group, so i was begging to have the illusionist moved into the caster group where i was stuck. I dunno, its just a thought. But Whatever, we got him down I guess thats whats important.

I'll remember my time in the MT group fondly. Had a dirge, my str was 1036 (OK so I didn't actually fight like that, but i got a screenshot) and my hps were like 11k. Life was good, and I don't know if i can go back to the way it used to be.

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If this shit keeps up I may lose interest in raiding. Every raid needs at least 3 dirges, maybe 4. What do yall think?

-h

Chox · 10-25-2007, 02:58 AM

I'm lucky if I get a dirge in grp most raids..What was your grp setup? Troubs aren't all bad, and sorcs and summoners do give some buffs. Make do with what you get, not always going to have the perfect grp.

razieh · 10-25-2007, 03:07 AM

Stop crying or quit imo! Throw me in a mage group any day as long as it has an illusionist in it.

Cochy · 10-25-2007, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by razieh

Stop crying or quit imo! Throw me in a mage group any day as long as it has an illusionist in it.

QFE I would take a mage group with an Illusionist over the MT group any day.

Meta · 10-25-2007, 09:41 AM

Mage group is sweet for an assassin. So many procs to play with. The haste and deaggro from the troub too are v nice, and all the STR buffs, fortissimo, dktm, allegro etc. If you have an illu then you should be doing great dps.

Think.. Warlock, Wiz, and Conj (?), get jesters cap for frontload and enjoy.

Vaanir · 10-25-2007, 10:17 AM

Any Assassin should take the mage group with an Illusionist in it, though not all mage groups have an Illusionist in them...

Jayad · 10-25-2007, 01:24 PM

Only time mage group is good is with both the troub and illu. Missing either one and just a dirge is better.

Unfortunately many raid leaders just don't understand group setups.

Gonzo · 10-25-2007, 02:53 PM

I hear ya man. All my raids at this time are mostly PUG'd and I never get the buffs I would like to have. No to mention most PUG's are filled with retards. I miss the days of having a full guild group who I ran with although I was never on my Assassin. I end up with a Coercer (no Illy) and no Dirge and I just am the guy who feeds Hate to the MT. Either way I am forced to make what I can of what I got but I definitely feel your frustration.

Hoss · 10-25-2007, 03:08 PM

Either yall cant read or I wasn't clear. No illusionist in my group. I think I had Fury, warlock, necro, troub, me, and shadowknight. Troub was spec'd for and running caster buffs.

And yeah i know yall say the MT sucks, but it is the best group I've ever had. Imagine a group with me, illusionist, dirge, templar, and I can't remember the other healer but it was either a defiler or a mystic. For MT we had a guardian and zerker swapping out. When the zerker was in there was when I got 1036 str. I think our MT bogarts the buffs too much.

-h

Manratten · 10-25-2007, 04:06 PM

Sheesh Hoss, why don't you cry about it, laugh.

Everyone likes to get great buffs, and sometimes, gasp, we have to deal with what we got. If we got one dirge, he's going in the MT group. If you aren't in the MT group, (and generally, you won't be), and we got one dirge, better deal with it. On the other hand, keep some perspective here.

The biggest reason DPS was down yesterday, was because all we were fighting were the named. Since the named all had weird stuff about them, it makes doing mammoth DPS somewhat tricky. I mean, we could all go absolutely ballistic on Sarik, and die, or we can slow way down when things went poorly at the start (like we did), and kill him. Thirgen is a pain in the butt, and having to kill the martial and magic advisors is going to slow you down regardless of who you are. We prob could have down more DPS on the Mistress, but weren't certain how much damage the AoE would do. When we determined we could just eat it and go, we went.

The reason the illusionist was placed in a different group then you was not some grand conspiracy to hold you down, it was to put power regen in all 4 groups. Regardless, considering what we had to work with. the buffs you received were not bad at all.

Gonna knock 50DKP off you for being a baby.