No, WIS is NOT fixed. - Page 4

Poison-X · 11-11-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Really?? Ok im done im breaking your heart now.

A few questions:

Is Obfuscation an active ability or passive?? Is it like "perfectionist" or is it like "honed Reflexes"??

It's like Perfectionist which means it is a passive ability.

NO FUCKTARD ITS ACTIVATED WHEN YOU CAST STEALTH
STEALTH TURNS ON THE OBFUSCATION EFFECT YOU CAN SEE ALL YOUR CA's GO UP 8% IN DAMAGE AT THAT TIME AND WHEN YOU UNSTEALTH IT DROPS ITS NOT PASSIVE AT ALL.

IF IT WAS LIKE PERFECTIONIST THEN ALL STEALTH BASED ATTACKS WOULD ALWAYS BE 8% HIGHER ALL THE TIME THATS THE ONLY TRUE PASSIVE FUCKING WAY TO DO THAT AA.

What is Obfuscations effect??
"Combat art damage on the following attack made from stealth is also increased".

What part of Concealment grants is Stealth??

WHAT PART OF CONCEALMENT DOESN'T GET OBFUSCATION THE PART UNDER "Shroud" SO YES THE FUCKING COMBAT STEALTH PART IS THE REASON WHY IT DOENST WORK IF COMBAT STELATH LASTED 30 FUCKING SECONDS IT WOULD WORK FUCKING FINE DUMB FUCK.

Shroud. It is applied on the termination of Combat Stealth. In the description, you can clearly see Shroud is what "grants stealth to caster".

How long does Shroud last??

36 seconds. Plenty of time for you to hit any combat art of your choice. You can even go check yourself by using it to one shot a city rat. And after you use your CA with Concealment you will drop into stealth and remain there for the 36 seconds if you so choose.

Where is the Obfuscation bonus??

It's on the Combat Art used while in stealth ("Shroud").

Put those together and your argument is completely flawed.

Like I said Obfuscation isn't working because it is not intended too not because "Combat Stealth" keeps it from working. Anyways thats it for me, I'll be the retard/moron to those that are close-minded anyday.

FUCKING IDIOT.

Gonzo · 11-11-2007, 10:02 PM

Gonzo · 11-11-2007, 10:08 PM

It's like Perfectionist which means it is a passive ability. Nothing changes this, which means it comes on the second you load your game and never stops running its effect. What this means for your argument. Nothing breaks it from working at any point. Combat Stealth does not change this. I mean come on, your argument is Combat Stealth stops this from being active. Shoot yourself, please.

Gonzo · 11-11-2007, 10:11 PM

WHAT PART OF CONCEALMENT DOESN'T GET OBFUSCATION THE PART UNDER "Shroud" SO YES THE FUCKING COMBAT STEALTH PART IS THE REASON WHY IT DOENST WORK IF COMBAT STELATH LASTED 30 FUCKING SECONDS IT WOULD WORK FUCKING FINE DUMB FUCK.

Hear that wind blowing?? Thats the point flying over your head or maybe the air passing through your empty skull. Where it is placed in the description of Concealment does not change the effect Obfuscation has.

Poison-X · 11-11-2007, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

WHAT PART OF CONCEALMENT DOESN'T GET OBFUSCATION THE PART UNDER "Shroud" SO YES THE FUCKING COMBAT STEALTH PART IS THE REASON WHY IT DOENST WORK IF COMBAT STELATH LASTED 30 FUCKING SECONDS IT WOULD WORK FUCKING FINE DUMB FUCK.

Hear that wind blowing?? Thats the point flying over your head or maybe the air passing through your empty skull. Where it is placed in the description of Concealment does not change the effect Obfuscation has.

Obfuscation can have a million effects but the only passive part is the casting/recast part.... as you can see.. the damage part is turned on by stealth only..

its really not that fucking hard to figure out why the fuck it doesnt work with concealment.

Gonzo · 11-11-2007, 10:43 PM

And???

Our Disagreement is:

Your view:

That it doesn't work with concealment because the effect is taking place during "Combat Stealth" and not "Shroud". Got proof of that???

My view:

It does not work because it isn't intended, written, whatever to do so. However Obfuscation still states combat art damage is increased if following stealth. Which means if Obfuscation is working as intended, "Combat Stealth" would NOT disrupt or keep this from happening. Since the +8% damage bonus would take place AFTER Combat Stealth.

Take screenshots all you want, you still don't get what I am saying.

Poison-X · 11-11-2007, 10:44 PM

Heres more pictures for you to look at.

IT WERKZ LIKE DIS

Code:

Concealment {
 On a successful attack {
  Apply Combat Stealth {
   -Increased damage of the following combat art by 8%
  } 
  //DONT APPLY SHROUD UNTILL COMBAT STEALTH TERMINATES 
  //AND TAKES THE 8% DAMAGE BOOST WITH IT
 
  Apply Shroud {
   -Grants stealth to caster
   -Suspends caster's movement speed enchancements
  }
 }
 Decrease Hate Gain of caster by 40%
}

Gonzo · 11-11-2007, 10:48 PM

Basically I disagree with you. DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!!!!! And thats fine, this is a free county. Also as far as I know NO Dev has stepped up and said this is why it doesn't work. Atleast I haven't seen it, so really it's all in theory. BTW if your response is to call people retarded, idiots, and morons because they disagree don't ever get married, have kids or anything of the sort cause you'll be hurting.

Poison-X · 11-11-2007, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

And???

Our Disagreement is:

Your view:

That it doesn't work with concealment because the effect is taking place during "Combat Stealth" and not "Shroud". Got proof of that???

My view:

It does not work because it isn't intended, written, whatever to do so. However Obfuscation still states combat art damage is increased if following stealth. Which means if Obfuscation is working as intended, "Combat Stealth" would NOT disrupt or keep this from happening.

Take screenshots all you want, you still don't get what I am saying.

You can read it however you want.. im telling you the way it actually fucking works.. you can spec the shit on LIVE right fucking now and look for yourself and prove yourself wrong it doesn't really fucking matter how they intended for it to work.. According to the description its not intended to even work at all with concealment but since they added it to it they can at least make it work.

The way it should be coded is to just add 8% damage to all stealth required ca's because you have to be in stealth in some way shape or form to cast it in the first place right! Then it will actually work after the next attack made from stealth.

Pinski · 11-11-2007, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Basically I disagree with you. DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!

You're also wrong. Which means because you disagree, you're a fucking moron.