Gonzo

From what I have read, it is no different than before RoK but that I guess is hearsay. But yeah I agree they should make it work which was my point from the very beginning.

Raina

I dont think its supposed to work with concealment at all, that blurb on there that says it increases the dmg is the bug, its not supposed to be there in other words. If it is supposed to be there the reason it doesnt work currently is because it applies the 8% during the .1sec Combat Stealth BEFORE shroud is applied and when combat stealth terminates so does the dmg bonus like Poisonx and others have said. I think the only way to fix it would be to remove the combat stealth, but I dont know how that would fuck up the ability. I think its just not supposed to be there and for whatever reason something in its coding is telling Obfuscation to apply the bonus dmg to it.

Ocrana

mhm that makes sense. Was a fine dream that Wis works with concealment (i means the 8% more dmg bonus) /sigh

but i dont give up the hope ;)

Gaige

I'm agi atm since I've seen like maybe 3 group raid encounters so far.

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Skratt

Gaige i was thinking agi made some sense cause... hmm even faster casting CA's cant be that bad... and being that you said there are few ae encounters... ... maybe once we start hitting up Avatars again

In my opinion they should just straight up change it to affect all stealth attacks by 8% regardless.... that would help rangers too...

They having a fit right now cause their lvl 80 (coverage) does NOT stack with wis line...its either 20.4% or 8%

In my opinion Wis should A) either straight up just add 8% dmg to ALL stealth atacks or b) add its effects to coverage AND concealment

Dont think its gamebreaking

aduros

If you compare the WIS line ability to all the other ones at the same level on the KoS tree, its vastly underpowered and should work with concealment.

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Steelbadger

Wow Gonzo...

I seriously don't get what you have up your arse? The reason Concealment does not work is because the bonus is applied to the combat stealth portion. We already know that Obfuscation does not work as per its description, by testing Spy and Shroud; It works by giving a +8% dmg bonus while in stealth, which is no longer applied when the stealth is broken. That is fact. Do the tests if you don't believe me. Stop throwing out the skill descriptions, as those are stylized at best and grossly inaccurate at worst. That simple fact shows why it does not work with Concealment. We can also assume that it is supposed to work with concealment because the line does show up. It doesn't show up on masked attack. It doesn't show up on Getaway. It doesn't show up on slip away. If they didn't want the bonus to apply to concealment the line wouldn't be there. A simple "No" entry in a database. As it is the entry is "yes" but the way that Obfuscation and Concealment work preclude us from gaining the bonus.

Its unfortunate as without Obfuscation working with concealment WIS is completely unattractive from a dps point of view (For fatal followup to be worthwhile we need to use concealment, fatal followup is worth more than Obfuscation). With a lack of group mobs STA becomes useless. AGI is the only line that actually provides more offensive capability. Sure we can get more survivability from WIS and STA but what is the use of survivability when we don't get aggro due to low dps? :P

However, we shall see, we shall see.

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Stinkfinger

yeah no shit,,,why are these guys arguing about something that does not even matter.

28% hurricane is 10 times greater then wis

even if there are less multiple targets, then normal. There is no way, RoK is the complete death of multiple targets. Even if it was, the "bad" pulls that bring more then one, makes it better then wis.

8 percent damage on one CA is just junk.

Gonzo

Nothing is up my ass. I am making a completely logical argument, it's just no one will take the time to read and understand what I am saying before replying.

Proof? Yeah what you said is a fact like I have expressed and written over and over. It is active once in stealth and then applied to the following Combat Art. Like I said "Combat Stealth" isn't stealth so why would Obfuscation become active there??? Like you said it is during the stealth of Spy and Shroud where the effect takes place. So it triggers in stealth, but "combat stealth" isn't stealth. The termination of "Combat Stealth" is what grants us stealth. For you to proof it, you would have to time a Screenshot perfectly with .1 second to show the bonus applied during this process. My point of view is based on the facts which the game itself supplies. The other side insinuates that the description of these effects are wrong, but wheres your proof???

Obfuscation seems to be working as intended, same with Concealment which was never meant to have the bonus of Obfuscation. Thats fine I'll just watch the reply to this post be nothing but misunderstanding and slander.

Pinski

And I'm willing to bet AGI > STA in this expansion.

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