Gorten

well all in all i do think that thw Wis line is the way to go ,

sta is nice but with most assassin's swinging slow weapons for good old hard hit's and a 8% + to are big hits would be great other then a 28% chanes that we could auto attack another mob. now with lot's of DA
it would be sweet but all of us assassin's dont get a illy all the time

i would rather have + 8% to hard hit's + massive crit
and with RoK + crit items have been seen alot

what do you guys think about that ?

aduros

The common misconception about STA line is that with more double attack, the AoE Auto Attack will do more damage. This is not the case since Hurricane cannot proc Double Attack, and Double Attack cannot proc Hurricane. They are mutually exclusive. Double Attack is good, but try not to get too carried away, and overestimate its effectiveness.

Once concealment is fixed to work with Obsufwutever (*ahem* Aerilik) I think WIS will definitely be a viable line for those whose choose.

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Gorten

what about AA line for the assassin tree i am going to try the RS/GW/FL thing

i still think RS is uesless tho

Vaanir

Sigh, atleast spell his name right!

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aduros

Excessive Bleading-21 Repeated Stabbing-21 Frontload-21 Deadly Focus-3 Exacting -4 Thats the max DPS specc.

Repeated Stabbing is a must if your going to pile on the +CA, and you'll notice an improvement in DPS depending on your playstyle. Bleeding is a nice addition, adds some DPS to your dots and debuffs the mob's HP.


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Zyco

Agree with that EOF build.

I am struggling to decide on my third KOS line.

Initially thought Sta for sure with the 28% surrounding attack and an addtional, albeit weak, AE on the basis that it would improve my dps on multimob encounters.

Now I am leaning towards Wis with the faster stealths and 8% additional damage on stealth attacks (even if it doesn't work on the full concealment chain).

Also like the sound of Agi line for the faster CAs. Just not convinced that it is worth giving up Intox plus another line to get it.

Think I will try Wis but will certainly change it if one line proves to be the outright best choice.

Gonzo

Just from my experience from trying all 3 and then looking at the parse as well as playability (mostly for myself). This is the best I have gotten so far.

KOS Tree

Bounty: 1
STR: 6,4,4,8,2
AGI: 6,4,4,8,2
INT: 5,4,4,8

Poise is awesome especially complimented with Repeated Stabbing. Doesn't really seem apparent but in short fights where it was much easier to look at. I was getting off more CA's with it than without it, apparently.

Intoxication was definitely hard to let go of, but with my ranged attacks criting like they are now I don't think I would go back. Noxious Venom was making up about 1-2% of my parse, but now Assailing blast is up to 1% from 0%, Spitting Asp is now 1-2% from 0% and Neck Shot is 2% from 1% ZW. To me that's an increase and plus Auto-attack is also benefiting. So Ranged CA's although not a huge part are seeing an increase of about 3-4%, much more than Intoxication was giving. The only thing I am gonna miss is the Debuff which was useful in Raid Situations but we're not utility so in the interest of DPS, I had to let it go.

Point Blank Shot is also really useful for soloing, an extra Stun (with knockback) is a pretty nice addition although it would be null in Raid situations. The In-Combat movement boost and extra Power from Archer's Agility is helpful in raiding (not awesome but helpful). That an AoE, Ranged attacks with the crit bonus is nice DPS Boosts.

That is what I am noticing, what about anyone else? I didn't hit on every aspect of the AGI line but I do believe it's the best option as 3rd line as far as DPS.

Hoss

Noxious venom was doing about 5% for me. A little over 30 DPS, and I heard others say it did about 50 dps for them (ZW). You sure you were using it?


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Gonzo

Definitely use it. Went back and checked again, I got 36 ZW with Noxious and at just under a 2k parse, it was 1% almost 2%.

5% of your damage coming from something that is doing 30-ish DPS doesn't sound right, that means your only doing 600-700 DPS ZW. ???

I guess if your getting 50 DPS ZW with it, I would definitely keep it (maybe the zone, group setup). No doubt about it but I haven't gotten that number personally. My ranged CA's have almost doubled is ZW though (Neck shot was about 20 ZW, it went to almost 40). I suspect a similar growth is found in pierce, and all other CA's due to Poise and Ranged Crit.

Only had it a short time though but so far pretty good choice just wondering if anyone else is experimenting with it.

Skratt

Im parsing much better without intox with poise instead....

Poise + monk buff= omg super fast CA