Stinkfinger

yep and maybe your right, maybe AGi is better for RoK raiding. But when an encounter is 3 mobs all attached, to me that is an mutilple encounter, so when people come here and say there is no mutiple encounters and the first zone I hit, has at least 5 of them then I have to question things.


but yeah it was our first run though and maybe they are extra gimp and sta not going to help out much.

I am opened minded on this, and respecs are free, I will give it AGI a shot see how it goes

Gonzo

Yeah if you can't consistently chain CA's than Poise is useless. That's the point. But when do you NOT have something to use?? However if this is the case, and you spend time waiting for CA's to refresh than your losing DPS anyways. So if your casting order is good and your always chaining CA's than Poise rocks, and recast timer's mean nothing.

Skratt

Ok do what you want to do....BTW your healers must suck if you HAVE to have getaway...yes its nice i have tried it but not worth taking over frontload... talking of which... thats another reason to have poise...

Short duration buffs and debuffs (dispatch, exacting, frontload, cacophony) you will get more attacks in while these effects are on you/on mob creating free dps


But logic is a bad thing i supose

Catseyes

if you spamm that fast the CAs, there's the risk to loose auto-attacks no ? i mean, even a 4 sec delay weapon, with haste is still fast in game, and require some attention to time CA, if you spamm them, arent you going to kill some autoattack dps ?

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aduros

In all honesty timing auto attacks is meaningless for Assassins. You don't "lose" auto-attacks, your simpling delaying the attack until it has a chance to fire, and it literally requires only a fraction of a second to do so. Repeated Stabbing and Poise allow for more of that 'in between time' anyways. You will see no drop in DPS from spamming away combat arts, in fact you will notice just the opposite. Keep in mind this advice is specific to our class, your results will vary with other classes.

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Catseyes

Are you sure about delaying attacks instead loosing them ? Atm , i have noticed increased DPS with CA timing than spamming CA.
Especially when only the 3 little dots are left, they are very poor dps tools, and better land high auto crits instead. While, the other big CAs come back .

That seems a non sense to me to prefer land a little DoT instead a 3-5K hit . Delaying this high hit, will make less high hits at the total and less damage.

But you noticed a dps increase and that doesnt go in this way, so i must miss something again about dps calc in our playstyle.

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Gaige

I spam my ass off. If you have a good CA order you'll lose lots of DPS by not spamming your CAs.

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Gonzo

Both actually, if your using a CA at the time your auto is supposed to go off, the AA will go off after the CA is finished. With Poise and Repeated it is less of an issue but you can still make improvements on DPS if you time correctly. The only CA's that will make you lose auto-attack swings all together are ones that give you stealth. Since the Stealth mechanic automatically turns off auto-attack so you don't break Stealth with a melee swing. This is where timing is helpful, you don't want to hit anything that grants Stealth when you have a auto-attack coming. The Damage you can get from a melee swing is well worth keeping, even if it costs you a 1 second on spamming.

DOTs => Big CA's = More DPS
than
Big CA's => DOTs.

(with some exception on the length of a fight)

Nivla

Anyone else parsing well with obfuscation + intoxication? Oh yea, everyone else is on the poise bandwagon nvm.:p I seem to
be doing as well if not better with it over poise. Depends on the fights. Short fights, heroic instances and ranged fights
I'm pretty sure poise wins. But on longer fights when all or almost all your ca's are down, poise becomes rather useless
I think. Maybe if a lot of CA's suddenly refresh at the end when the mob is almost dead poise is again good because you
can get them off faster. I'm not saying obfuscation + intoxication is def better but it's definelty a worthy alternative.
I don't even think I'm getting the most out of yet. It's not as easy to play as poise. I'm doing things like for instance
hitting concealment-stealth-death blade-as many other stealth attacks as possible-spy-execute-stealth-FF. Stuff like that.
Got a 19k FF that way. Best I got with poise was about 17.5k M1. And a 33.5 AD3 execute without any prayers/miracles come to
mind That kinda surprised me, I thought to get a good FF off I would need the faster casting speed. The casting speed increase
would be great with obfuscation cause right now stealth is still a 1 sec cast but I can't imagine dropping str or int for it.
The ranged crits are nice but who wants to be a ranger? As far as intox only doing 50 or 100 dps w/e I'm
not sure but I do know that it has always been not far behind total zone wide damage of decap/execute so it's not bad. I've
seen encounters where I thought to myself "I wish I had sta ae attacks now" too so I don't think
there is a single cookie cutter spec anymore. Good job SOE..I'm looking forward to the AA house item.

Skratt

yeah nivla seems that Poise's great benefit is lessened when we have a monk or any other class that speeds up our casts...

Man cant wait to be able to re-spec at a whim...