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Old 12-07-2007, 04:15 AM  
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Default Re: Moon Blade/Eviscerate are NOT working with FF!!!!

Formula is easy.. not all your Attacks add same damage

Basically add the high + low of your FF (pre CA+ mods_ divide by 2 and thats its base for simplicity sake lets say 1000-1200 = 1100 now get multiplied by CA's

Pinpoint/Jugular/Mortal/Execute each ad a 1 multiplier to that formula. The blues add a mult. of 1.5 and 2 so mult is cast time multiplied... the more the Stealth CA takes the more dmg it adds to FF

so max ATM is a 8.5 multiplier on our theoretical 1100 FF version yields a hit of 9350.... (no high or low..its allways median....ALLWAYS only thing that changes this is debuffs) add 30% for crit and u get 12,155 crit with max CA's

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If moonblade would add it would be a 9.5 mult and do max
10,450 noncrit ---------13,585 crit
your 2 min combo would be (what we max out right now with 10 min combo )
9,350 noncrit -------12,155 crit
your 1 min combo
8,250 Noncrit -------10,725 crit

What really pisses me off sometimes is that what really adds damage is what we most get interrupted in concealment combo haha... before i would kinda get mad when mob would ae before blues...

Currently Moon Blade has a multiplier of 0 and FYI no other CA's add dmg although they bug FF to seem like its active (you get a 100% miss if you use em alone and FF) for those noobcakes thinking adding Cheapshot/Evade adds dmg...betcha you were the same who thought Smokebomb did uber dmg
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Old 12-07-2007, 04:52 AM  
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Default Re: Moon Blade/Eviscerate are NOT working with FF!!!!

Thats pretty much how I thought it worked, although I do confess not knowing about the cast-time normalization to the dmg.

Good job Hopefully if we whine as much as rangers it could be fixed in the next 6 or so months...
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Old 12-07-2007, 06:35 AM  
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I'm a traitor to the assassin class (being a ranger on pvp) so i can't help you.
But maybe someday!
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Old 12-07-2007, 03:51 PM  
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Default Re: Moon Blade/Eviscerate are NOT working with FF!!!!

Does the multiplier go down if we have alacrity active or take the agi endline ability? (Or any of the other things in game that make us cast like greased lightning)

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Old 12-07-2007, 04:22 PM  
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Already fixed and should be part of LU 41 next week
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Does the multiplier go down if we have alacrity active or take the agi endline ability? (Or any of the other things in game that make us cast like greased lightning)

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Wouldn't the multiplier go up if you were casting faster? Or are you asking if there is a penalty for getting hasted cast times? If that's the question, the the answer would appear to be no since PB is the only one that has a timer that can get in tiwce in 10 seconds, and it looks like its already being hasted to get used twice. Even hasted the other ones are too long to get under a 10 sec recast.

PB, Jugular, Mortal, Execute, SA, Slate, PB again

1, 1, 1, 1, 1.5, 2, 1 = 8.5
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Old 12-07-2007, 05:11 PM  
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Already fixed and should be part of LU 41 next week
Thank You. Can you give wardens some melee scouts buffs to hand out also, pls??
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:46 PM  
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Default Re: Moon Blade/Eviscerate are NOT working with FF!!!!

Each attack only adds once, So if you manage to get PB off 2x it will only add a 1 multiplier.
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:47 PM  
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Wouldn't the multiplier go up if you were casting faster? Or are you asking if there is a penalty for getting hasted cast times? If that's the question, the the answer would appear to be no since PB is the only one that has a timer that can get in tiwce in 10 seconds, and it looks like its already being hasted to get used twice. Even hasted the other ones are too long to get under a 10 sec recast.

PB, Jugular, Mortal, Execute, SA, Slate, PB again

1, 1, 1, 1, 1.5, 2, 1 = 8.5
No, poise does not decrease your recast time, it decreases your casting time. Same with alacrity. Those are not the same as jcap or the endline str AA. If you reread what skratt wrote, you see that the blueback attacks get a higher bonus, ostensibly because they take longer to cast. So, the question of whether you get a 'penalty' for having shorter cast times is legitimate.


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Old 12-08-2007, 04:16 AM  
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Hells to the yeah Aeralik...

and no having Poise does not diminish its damage...just like poise will not lower your proc % on longer cast CA's

Man i feel gooooood
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