Exessive Bleeding AA= more hate?? - Page 4

Heck · 12-21-2007, 04:54 PM

time would be your casting/recovery/attack speed.....did you miss that part?

aduros · 12-21-2007, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Heck

time would be your casting/recovery/attack speed.....did you miss that part?

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Originally Posted by aduros

If you want to know why you gain more dps the quicker you finish the fight after your concealment chain, its easy. Keep you ACT graph running, and see what what happens when you use concealment and watch it the rest of the fight.

Even tho you still have other CAs to spam, nothing will come close to the DPS you put out in those 7 seconds. So the longer the fights drags on after that, the lower your DPS goes until it averages out. DPS is relative. The more DPS your raid is pumping out, the higher your numbers will be.

Take a few days to let that sink in, then get back to me.

There ya go Jim, shorter fight = higher DPS

Heck · 12-21-2007, 05:00 PM

Aduros, you're still putting out the same DPS, the only difference is you do don't do it as long. I don't see what you're not getting here.

aduros · 12-21-2007, 05:01 PM

Not according to ACT.

Heck · 12-21-2007, 05:03 PM

So Aud, tell me what happens the rest of the fight when the mob doesn't die in those first 4 - 10seconds. What benefit does EB have then on your DPS?

aduros · 12-21-2007, 05:07 PM

Just keep the graph open on a trash fight, all will be clear to you.

Heck · 12-21-2007, 05:09 PM

Look Aud, I know what you're trying to say. The fact of the matter is that if you're fighting a mob with just enough HP that the scenario you're thinking of is applicable, then the increase in DPS you'd see while using EB would be minimal at best and you probably wouldn't notice that much of a difference. This is IF and ONLY IF you're fighting a mob that had just that right amount of HP to start with.

aduros · 12-21-2007, 05:12 PM

The dps increase is minimal, theres no doubt about that. But it's an increase non the less. My point from the get go was that it was in fact an increase, not a decrease as Hoss mentioned.

Gonzo · 12-21-2007, 06:04 PM

Hoss-

I dunno maybe I am not explaining it correctly or your missing something. However I don't see how you don't parse higher on a heroic and higher on an epic. Maybe I am doing something wrong and I just suck against epics. By my own numbers, my highest heroic named parse is 7466.52 (Arch Duke Latol in CoA), on an epic named it's 3870.84 (Named Vamp in MMIS). I keep track of them for my own personal tracking cause I am always trying to beat it. Always why is this so?? Because in a short amount of time, assassins can do ALOT of damage. The DPS of that damage is diminished because of time. If you decrease the amount of Health a mob has, the mob will die faster with less health. I don't know how you don't get this concept?? You seem like a smart guy, so I am not sure where the problem lies.

Gonzo · 12-21-2007, 06:20 PM

I just read the rest of the post and aduros is exactly right. His Concealment explanation is what I was trying to explain with Killing Blade. I dunno I hate trying to explain things but yes EB does increase DPS. It is not a +damage to CA's like other buffs we have, but rather a time compression. Why because your taking x% of the mobs health away that you would not have done otherwise. EB's effect is somewhat similar to putting 5 points into hemotoxin. It doesn't increase the damage just the time. I might as well stop since this will only confuse someone, but trust us it does increase DPS. Just think about the effect it has and then about your damage. Those should tie themselves together and you will figure it out.