Gummby8

1) Is CA proc rate dependant on your mainhands swing time? I know that if you have a 6 sec swing wep it has a higher chance to proc on every auto attack than say a 1.5 sec swing wep. Does this same concept apply to assassin CA's as well. What I am getting at is since assassins are CA spammers by nature and we love to have a slow singing wep for the high crits, does that same slow swing also boost our poison proc rates whenever we use a CA, not just on auto attack?

2) Why do assassins drool over the trooper boots? They have 0 crits on them and a crappy proc. The reason i say crappy proc is this, its a low chance ot proc in the first place, and even if it does proc DA only works on auto attack and since we all have weps 4sec + you get 2-3 swings tops at a 10% chance for a double attack, that = some really crappy chance at having 1 auto attack that i dont want to calculate.

__________________
<--- Not a noob, contrary to popular belief

Chox

CA proc rate goes off in accordance with that CA's base casting time. And 10 DA on a "crappy" proc as you put it. Is better than most of the other boots out there.

aduros

It may look low because your doing your calculations in a complete vacuum. EQ2 is not a vacuum.

__________________

Valas

I wish EQ2 was a vacuum. With how much I play this damn game my house would be spottless.

Gummby8

good to know, tyvm

__________________
<--- Not a noob, contrary to popular belief

Gonzo

I read somewhere that proc chance (i.e. 1.8 times per minute) is based on a 3 sec delay. Meaning if you use a 3 sec weapon than you have a 8% chance to execute the proc with a weapon swing. However the chance of a CA proc'ing is greater since the casting & recovery time is shorter. In the end, the effects are normalized and you still only proc 1.8 times per minute but you will have a better chance to proc with a CA than a melee swing. So SPAM AwAY!!

Take what I said above and you get, it will proc roughly 2 times per minute and has a duration of 15 seconds. That's 30 seconds out of every minute, your going to have a 10% DA. That's half the time, so basically to me they are worth +5% DA. I know simple, and NOT exact but that's how I view them and if you go back to other threads: +5% DA is pretty sweet. Not to meantion if you get some good +proc chance classes in your group, it's even better.

Hoss

Actually, the % chance of a proc would be lower when the casting time is shorter. Don't believe me? Wield a 4s weapon and type /we and look at the proc %. Then equip a 1s weapon and look at its proc percentage. The net result is, if you did nothing but auto attack, you'd get the same number of procs with both weapons, but the percent chance has to be different to achieve that. The same is true with combat arts. They are basically treated like a weapon with .5 second swing time (or whatever its cast time is), which means their proc % is significantly lower. I remember reading something about the proc rates listed on things being based on a given weapon speed (coulda been 3s) but I think thats old info from back in the day when they listed a % on the item instead of a rate like 1.8 per min. There are still some items that list a %, but all of them I've seen recently seem to proc off of when you get hit, not when you hit something.

Now, those proc %'s are calculated with the base weapon (or CA) speed. So, when we get haste, it results in actually procing more often. Since we generally get a lot more weapon haste than we do CA haste (things like poise), you're going to proc more off of those weapons. Now, if you have poise and are soloing, its probably about equal. My self buffed haste is (not including honed reflexes or the agi ring proc) is about 28 and I think thats pretty close to what poise gives me for CA haste.


-h

__________________
Let us Pray the Pimp's Prayer.
Lord, please pray for the soul of this bitch and guide my pimp hand and make it strong Lord, so that she might learn a hoe's place.

Amen

Gonzo

Yeah your right, I made a typo when I was typing that. Faster Casting + Recovery means less chance to proc but still is normalized at x times per minute.