Ring Of Four Winds - Page 4

aduros · 01-18-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

Yes really.

I have yet to see anyone have their ZW come close to the insane numbers they can spike on trash. The fact alone that named fights are much longer, mean they have a greater impact on your ZW than a trash pull.

Pinski · 01-18-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by aduros

I have yet to see anyone have their ZW come close to the insane numbers they can spike on trash. The fact alone that named fights are much longer, mean they have a greater impact on your ZW.

The fact that trash is more than 50% of a zone means that trash affects your DPS more so than nameds.

aduros · 01-18-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

The fact that trash is more than 50% of a zone means that trash affects your DPS more so than nameds.

Joke's on you, I got in my edit before your post!

Edit: what I was getting at is that if you fuck up on named, your ZW will suffer. Regardless of your 6k trash spikes.

Satinah · 01-18-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystify

The question is, "Can you keep all your CAs down without the ring?" followed by "Can you keep all your CAs down with the ring?" With Poise and Repeated Stabbing, the answer to both questions should be "Yes."

The math is simple as well. If the answer is "Yes." to both questions, then the Ring of the Four Winds is increasing your DPS by the [actual] percentage it modifies your skills by multiplied by the percentage of your damage that is Combat Arts. It's not exactly 5%, since its not 5% on skills modified by perfectionist, and also skills modified by other achievements have slightly different amounts from the Ring of the Four Winds. However, its close enough to 5% to be able to safely use that as an approximation if you can keep all your [Damage] CAs down. Again, with Poise and Stabbing, you should be able to easily keep your CAs down and your CAs should be about 40% of your DPS if you are in a group with a good amount of double attack buffs (bard/illusionist). 2% more DPS (if you keep your CAs down and they are 40% of your DPS) is more than 2% crit.

EDIT: Don't forget that it speeds up the reuse of your temp buffs.

That makes sence on paper, its flawed though. Just because something refreshes .5 to a few sec earlier does not directly translate into dps. Would be 1/4 to 1/2 of what your getting in reality (if that), and thats still not counting down time.

Like for example even if your conceal chain refreshes earlier. . . your still gonna cast your dots first, arn't you?

I think ill give it a try to help with sustained damage a bit because these days ive been spiking for some insane numbers that the tank cant hold anyway.

Satinah · 01-18-2008, 04:37 PM

Just thinking out loud a bit more. . .

No gains on the first set of CAs till the 20-30sec mark when things start to refresh, so with the 2% you are getting and an average encounter lenght of 1min it would be half of that or 1%, and thats still rough numbers not taking into account the fact that it doesnt translate into direct dps, a fraction of that in reality when you consider all the other cons.

So yea, basically just a fwe sec off of the temp buffs (good) and a tiny boost from CA refresh.

Thaydrian · 01-19-2008, 07:21 PM

Rofw is not viable anymore, so much better crit gear that has +ca dmg.

Hoss · 01-20-2008, 12:33 PM

Curious, is it a true 5% reduction, or does it use SOEs special math the way perfectionist does? A true 5% would knock off 3 seconds for every minute of refresh. If its coded like perfectionist, it'd be like 2 seconds off per minute.

-h

Vaanir · 01-20-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoss

Curious, is it a true 5% reduction, or does it use SOEs special math the way perfectionist does? A true 5% would knock off 3 seconds for every minute of refresh. If its coded like perfectionist, it'd be like 2 seconds off per minute.

-h

It's calculated as 60 / 1.05 = 57.1 so..... not perfect.