Skratt

Yes Deathmarch does break stealth... both on the march and when it first activates

Hoss

Can you tell me how you guys figure out what breaks stealth? Do you get someone to group with you, then goto the wall in kunzar or something? Is there a way you can tell whats breaking stealth when you look at logs? Do you just start taking off buffs during a raid until the stealth breaking problem stops?


-h

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Benji

With a lot of them, you can tell simply by looking at the combat window. Masked strike --> untreated bleeding -- > visible = obvious, for example.

Some take more testing to figure out because you end up with so many procs, but most of them aren't difficult to figure out. Especially if, for instance, your SK has a deathmarch macro and you lose stealth half a second after seeing him yell it.

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Hoss

Is it that simple with deathmarch? Skratt says it breaks both with on the march, and when it first activates. So, there are 2 components to it? And they both break stealth?

I've never noticed DM causing me problems, but then I've probably only ever raided with a SK in group a half a dozen times. I've done heoric stuff with an SK tank more than any other type of tank though. You would think it would show up in those situations too.

I guess I'm just looking for advice on what to look for, or what to try the next time I'm in a raid and I have trouble getting through my concealment chains. The first thing I'll do look for and remove any of the stuff listed here, but unless this is an all inclusive list, that may not be enough.


-h

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Pinski

Wow, you're dumb. When DeathMarch is cast, On the March "procs." Obviously, if it breaks when On the March procs, it'll break when it is cast, because On the March procs then too!

But the real question is, does it really break it?

Though the Illusionist spell doesn't do anything to stealth.

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SammaelCB

Not sure if you know which one I mean....but its the orange icon with the colorful lines...Prismatic something. Next mele attack by ally does mental damage yada yada....The entire night I was only unable to stealth when this was on me, not before and not after. Easy to see too with the icon. I spoke with the Illy doing it and when he stopped casting it on me, so did the issue.

Pinski

There's only 1 Illusionist spell you could be talking about, and it's definitely not causing stealth to stop working because I cast it on Assassins all the time without any issue.

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lyasa

i think it only breaks if the proc counts as a cast for the one in stealth, so since untreated bleeding is "cast" by the assassin, it breaks stealth. least that's what i think, so since the casting on prismatic line is done by illy, shouldn't break assassin's stealth, if it does, well shit, i'm wrong.

Skratt

Well pinksi its cause 1st part of spell is SK cast.....second part is on death blow.... double your pleasure of stealth breaking

SammaelCB

I still <3 deathmarch. Our SK spams macro so its easy to see when not to conceal.