icKx

Whomever would ban OP from posting in this forum has my vote for new sassn mod.

Davngr

or.. why dont you try to take part in the discusion or STFU fanboi.. cheerleaders can suck my fat cock

Davngr

yea was just one mistake that stood out .. im sure i had more

edit. GDI

icKx

That's from like three pages ago. The consensus on this matter is that the mage group is better, yet here you are still talking nonsense.

Davngr

cob and wiz proc are about the same if you do the math and most non-myth assins aren't capped on haste so cob > wiz proc oh and there's the whole problem about it being a dot.. means i have 3 chances to get stuned/feared/proc mob stoneskin.

and it's really weird .. coz i just looked at my parse and cripts revenge did 50 dps for me in a raid and i cant find any parse with flametounge doing more than 30 dps.

btw, the dps buffs you get in the caster group are all temp, so by your own words a full time dps buff from the dirge would be better right? full time > temp right?

and also.. kinda unfair your placing buffs from 4 different classe against one?(poor lil dirge) i mean right? why dont you add in RoA? or devine recovery? or dire melee proc from defiler or maybe heck if your pulling mad agro.. MT group is where you want to be moderate? guard can crack sentry watch on you if your gonna die.

if you have some parse wher flametounge is out parsing dirge procs expecialy CoB back from when you where in a non mythical raid i would love to see them. untill then illy is the leetness about the mage group period, and if your gear is poop the Mt gorup will give you more than the caster group; AND a true hybred group will own both.

Davngr

a one liner is adding to the conversation? im asking for something solid.. not some tard regurgitating what others have said. i do agree that the mage is nice for a myth assin.. but a legen assin in a non-myth raid gets way more from a melee oriented group.

Vailezee

Good job noobsauce, your a fucking idiot!! Chapel and I are right you are wrong, almost every assassin would agree. There is no point in giving 1 fucking class his little gay hybrid group, let alone venturing from mt group or Mage group unless there is no place to put you.

You said MT group > mage group leave it at that. Take a look at what you write.. Warlock AA only affect spells.. heaven forbid i get IA, rapidity, and the warlock proc for my poisons. Hey garbage ass, if your gonna also tell me that you were on a pickup raid, and became an expert overnight you might aswell swallow that bottle of draino under your moms sink. Point proven, TRIED by myself.. and by chapel.. and by many other assassins who raid on a daily basis in the same guild where we can try many different setups on the same mobs. Pretty sure chapel had his epic weapon before his mythical.. and to lead his raid force through vp, he might have some clue what he is talking about, and stfu talking about trak if you dont even have your mythical. My dots hardly ever cause me to get arcane, trauma, or nox detrements from any mob, i use 95 percent of the time, cause thats mostly what all zones are.. TRASH!!

Hoss

I assumed he edited it to add in the typoes. No?

Last night, I had 65 MC with the elixir and not using my choker. I don't ever look at any of my stats during a fight, thats why I don't tend to include procs. They're using at least AD3 spells, but no, I'm not getting the buffs because the classes aren't there. When I have a fury, she usually gives me feral, and I had it last night, str was 971. I try to get 1k str in a raid, but sometimes people with single target str buffs, (like the mystic) won't put it on me because they think I've hit the cap and it'd be useless to me. I don't even argue, because truth is, if they put it on a melee class with like 500 str, it probably is doing more for the raid.

CA mod is 450 (before the reet helm proc). How high do you guys try to push that? Seems like right around 500, we're going to be capped on a lot of our CAs. Is the 50% cap on the base damage, or the damage after its been modified by your str?

So what was the question? Oh yeah, in legendary gear we should easily be capped on str and crits. Did you retract that statement while I wasn't looking? because even if all your math was right, thats not correct. I agree that 1k str is 'close to cap' but I don't get that in all legendary gear.

As for the original question, the last time I tried a caster group, some of their procs were breaking my concealment, and it was about the shittiest group I'd ever been in. A fucking Ranger in *my* OT group actually outparsed me. No one answered earlier when I asked if those had all been fixed. I might have to try out a caster group again.



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Davngr

hmmm.. but dirge/temp affect spells and gear.. isin't that better?

i started the thred because someone told that the caster group was better then the MT group, and i looked at the buffs i had and knew that persone was wrong.

so i came here to ask why it is everyone here belives this to be true. i had a wiz,illy,troub in a mage oriented group and it sucked compared to what a dirge/temp/shaw would have given me.

anyhow this is a circle jerk, and none of you fanbois wants to put up any parses or real data so im gonna guess none exist.


PS. any of you retards ever hear of a self fulfilling prophecy?

Vailezee

the dirge/temp spell effect is NOT as critical non mythical as your double attack and troub an other illy buffs buffs from fury or whichever healer you have in mage group and the buffs from wizzy or lock. Truth is, every double attack you hit is gonna smash several procs on your gear if you have a few. if you want parses i got em for you. send me an in game tell and ill paste them to you. the worse off your gear, the better auto attack and poison procs your going to want.