Youre

along those lines.... I didn't get to do any beta raiding, so I'm not 100% sure, but i didn't hear a whole lot about multimob raid encounters (specifically where aoe AA would help). I know there's a ton for heroic zones, however.

OFC the trash and encounters could be changed, but unless they make all of those multimob encounters I would find it hard to believe people would be running around with the AoE AA. Don't get me wrong though, it wouldn't be horrible to have on the mirror for heroic nonsense.

Hoss

So the new choices might be agi/int/and stamina up to 8pts in the aoe?

hrm ...

__________________
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Geek Code Version 3.12:
GE$/GCS d-(--) S+:++ a? C++(+++)>$ U P+ L E? W+(--) N(+)
o? K? w+(---) !O M-- V PS--/+++ PE(++) Y+ PGP-- t+@ 5+++
X- R++/+++ tv++ b++@ DI++++ D+(++) G+ e++ h r*(--) y+
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

Benji

I'm thinking STR/AGI/STA, personally, for heroics. I've heard there isnt much AE in the raids.

__________________

Hoss

Only reason i was thinking of giving up str is because, do you need the 13% mc anymore, and can't you get the recast of mortal and execute down through set pieces? So you'd likely only be giving up the dmg bonus on those 2 spells.


Of course, thats for you guys who are saying its insanely easy to mac mc. I'm not there yet.


-h

__________________
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Geek Code Version 3.12:
GE$/GCS d-(--) S+:++ a? C++(+++)>$ U P+ L E? W+(--) N(+)
o? K? w+(---) !O M-- V PS--/+++ PE(++) Y+ PGP-- t+@ 5+++
X- R++/+++ tv++ b++@ DI++++ D+(++) G+ e++ h r*(--) y+
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

Benji

5 mins on execute and 1min on mortal blade? Beyond the fact that those stack with the time decreases on gear, they're much larger than them.

Beside which, losing 13% MC affects the entirety of our dps, whereas losing 65% SC drops a much smaller portion.

__________________

Davngr

yea, i wont be touching STR line and will probably try to make do with my current set up for a while see if i can make it work. if it don't, INT is getting the ax.

ps. sad thing is procs like signet/SoP/bane and even epic proc? isn't it poison? wont be as sexy :\

Benji

Til you hit 200 AA, anyway. It's a temp swap to force the crit debuff earlier, since you need it to finish up the first raids easier. Personally, my guild is skipping raids this week(except tonight, ofc!) and I'll probably be 165ish by our first raid if it goes as well as I think it should. :P

__________________

Vlix_Oasis

Ok, just opened up my shadows tree a few days ago and been bouncing around on where to put my first point.

On one side, Death Blow is awfully nice but in any instance it is pretty worthless. On raids I see it being alittle more viable but a mob at 2% is pretty much dead anyways and theres still only a chance of 6% (per point) for it to land before it's dead.

The other I am looking at is the extra trigger on Death Mark. Definitely one of our better CA's and would be pretty consistent for some extra damage.

Anyways where would you guys suggest starting out?

__________________


Staccato: 90 Dirge <autoattack>
Ehtacs: 80 Mystic a.k.a Cure Bitch <autoattack>
Vlix: 80 Assassin retired<autoattack>
Founder and Loot Council Member of Paradise Lost <autoattack>
CHECK OUR WEBSITE FOR CURRENT OPENINGS!

Hoss

I'm planning on skipping the death mark trigger for my heroic spec. I rarely notice it getting triggered in regular groups.

__________________
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Geek Code Version 3.12:
GE$/GCS d-(--) S+:++ a? C++(+++)>$ U P+ L E? W+(--) N(+)
o? K? w+(---) !O M-- V PS--/+++ PE(++) Y+ PGP-- t+@ 5+++
X- R++/+++ tv++ b++@ DI++++ D+(++) G+ e++ h r*(--) y+
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

Benji

1st point Mark, 2nd point Killing Blow, 3-7 Poison Mastery, 8-10 Killing Blow, 11-14 endlines, 15 Killing Blow, 16-19 Mark.

20-24 Crippling, 25-29 Tendon Slice.. if you go 30 into Assassin.

__________________