icKx

I think Hoss makes more sense than you at this point, and that's pretty bad.

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Davngr

sure wtf lets continue with fucking worthless convo! im all for it.. go ahead and explain to me how my point was not completely clear? current buffs in game trivialize tanking for the most part, and you can win eq with an ok player as long as you can get him/her the right buffs and gear. after the changes if they ever happen, those buffs will be gone or nerfed and instead it will be the tanks actions alone that will control encoutners.

Hoss

I've already explained it. You've never seen anything but shitty tanks, so you clearly don't understand what an OK tank does.

An OK tank keeps his DPS alive.
An OK tank helps keep himself alive.
An OK tank pulls one encounter at a time.
An OK tank positions mobs so we can unload without having to constantly move around.

The only thing on that list that gear significantly helps with is staying alive. Buffs help with staying alive and keeping the DPS alive. But they don't make it easy mode, because, as you pointed out, we can pretty much rip at will from anyone but a pally. There are buttons to mash too. They need to be mashed at the right time. Remember, you are trying to defend the statement that a monkey could make an OK tank and thats what I'm calling bullshit on (in this case the monkey can be a suck ass player like tuor or davngr. I understand you didn't mean an actual chimpanzee, or koko the gorilla). There are plenty of retarded tanks who can't do the above even with the gear and buffs.

And BTW, no even being a pally doesn't make it total EZmode, I've ripped aggro from a pally constantly with ammends and my aggro xfer on him.

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Vlix_Oasis

Apples and oranges. Both of you guys have legit arguments but your arguing about 2 different things or the same thing in 2 different ways.

Dav, even you agreed in an earlier post with what Hoss is saying. I don't agree you can put an idiot in the MT spot and automatically win in eq2. It takes much more than that to be a good tank even with the current buff system as you even said it does take skill.

Hoss, with the new system tanks are going to have to play a more active role in being a good tank than before where more than half of the effectiveness was dependant of buffs/gear and raid setup. The tank that you played with who couldn't hold aggro and was taking massive amounts of damage was/is a shitty tank that even buffs couldn't help.

Anyway continue to shoot shit about who's mom has the hairest back. It keeps me entertained at work.

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Win!!!

Davngr

no.. you stupid fuck.. you're the monkey

yes with enough gear and hate buffs even a shit player like you could successfully MT a raid..

im not taking anything away form GOOD TANKS and im sure you have never played with any you scrub.. what i am saying is that the changes will make the gap between an OK tank and GOOD tank WAY more obious.. to the point where people WILL NOT BE KILLIN what they are killin now.

keep up your efforts to rationalise something you know nothing about..

Davngr

actually Hoss is talking about something he knows nothing about. since he does not play a tank.

Hoss

Wow, I guess you win. Except that you're wrong that I could MT a raid. Want me to prove it? Get me your MT's account info, I will log him in tonight and try to tank your raid. We'll blow that fucking theory right out of the water. The difference between us is that I know I can't tank, and you think you're OK at it.

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Davngr

yea Hoss talk about everything under the sun exept ACTUAL game mechanics you know nothing about.

seriously.. stick to what you know man, stupid one liners and talking about nothing. fucking retard

edit. typo

Hoss

QQ more faggot. Everytime you post you make yourself look more idiotic. Hey, I have an idea, why don't you try to rationalize your ignorant statements again? Maybe you could tell us how a racoon would do as a tank? how about the retarded kid who lives in your room and wears your underwear? Could he stop molesting your kitty long enough to be an OK tank? Hey, as long as the kitty gets violated, he must have done a pretty good job, right?

How the fuck can you say i know nothing about game mechanics when your the one who thinks gear + buffs = always win?


-h

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