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Old 02-11-2009, 01:55 AM  
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Hell, I don't know what else you can do. You don't mention whether you spam mark, or the masked / pinpoint combo. Maybe if you post your pie we can tell if something looks off (like mark not doing enough dmg).

Oh, and do the magma infusions work? I used to drink them, but then realized my CA mod wasn't changing. So I switched to int food and drink.
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Old 02-11-2009, 02:22 AM  
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Rhaz, Gaige, Chapel and Valanthe, epic noobness in the thread eeek... so I've decided to add something too.

Anyways, I see the problem straight away Aaaaamy, your AA's are entirely wrong.

You need to be specced WIS + STA with all the stats maxed.
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Old 02-11-2009, 10:31 AM  
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Thank you for the input Hoss, so the first two trees are good for raiding, what about the TSO tree how do you 'feel' about it lol

Hoss your numbers are wrong, and you will find more dps not queueing or macroing your CA's, I don't expect you to agree with me and that is okay - the 'reroll' comment was funny the first ten times but now it's just sounding like you have ranger envy,


And here is the positive outcome so far:
1)Take a look at the gear I mentioned
2)Cut Arteries is working correctly
3)You need to change your AA spec


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Self buffed I'm standing at 80% melee crit with 990 CA dmg and 889 str (which usually hits over 1000 in raid)


Aamy is 80% with the stones / pots or before? If it is with pots I would say you are a little low and I think you could give up some of the CA for MC

Hoss 990 CA isn't that a little high isn't the point of diminishing returns around 450-550 or so?
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:04 AM  
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/Agree with Hoss. And setup ACT to text to speech "Dispatched" or whatever you brigand's macro is. Hearing it go off is a lot easier than watching text roll while in a scuffle. I always use frontload and fury of Innorouk before my concealment chains. As soon as I hear "Dispatched" I self buff and go to town. GL!
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:40 PM  
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Thank you for the input Hoss, so the first two trees are good for raiding, what about the TSO tree how do you 'feel' about it lol
The TSO tree is probably better for DPS than the other two. Its def better than the EoF tree. But you have to spend points in the other 2 to get everything in the shadow line.

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Hoss your numbers are wrong, and you will find more dps not queueing or macroing your CA's, I don't expect you to agree with me and that is okay - the 'reroll' comment was funny the first ten times but now it's just sounding like you have ranger envy,
Please answer my question. Why did you bother to get repeated stabbing? If you really play like you say you do, it is the absolute most worthless thing you could have possibly picked up.

Also, if my numbers are wrong, tell me the correct numbers. What % of your total damage comes from AA, and what % comes from combat arts?

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Hoss 990 CA isn't that a little high isn't the point of diminishing returns around 450-550 or so?
Technically, Diminishing returns in CA starts a lot earlier. Look at your lowest damage Combat art (it will be one of your dots) and divide by two. And I think CA only affects the initial hit of those dots. But its not the same sort of curve that haste and dps has, so its practical to keep adding CA dmg until you get up much higher. 500 seems like a bare minimum that assassins should be running for a CA mod, because all of our attacks (other than the dots) are over 1k.

One thing I forgot, or perhaps never knew, is where the CA dmg gets added (or which number the 50% cap applies to). Does it apply to the base dmg? Does it apply after our str bonuses have been added? Or does it get calculated on each individual hit .... after all the debuffs have been taken into account. If its the last one, we clearly need to keep adding CA mods until we hard cap at about 30k. I remember trying to figure this out once, but the tooltips were bugged and I gave up.
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Old 02-11-2009, 03:03 PM  
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Alright so ...

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Please answer my question. Why did you bother to get repeated stabbing? If you really play like you say you do, it is the absolute most worthless thing you could have possibly picked up.

Also, if my numbers are wrong, tell me the correct numbers. What % of your total damage comes from AA, and what % comes from combat arts?
I'm not sure where your going with this question other then Cloaked being up for a longer (and or for more dmg) duration than any of the other CA's in that line, which will provide the most dps out of bleeding - is this right?

The AA reads: Ecessive Bleeding - Reduces the maximum health by up to 5% of for each Bleeding ability active on the target

Being as I put AA into DM(5) and none in Cloaked I could get more out of Cloaked on a raid by simply swaping these two? I would agree with that - so why DM then? I typically only run one set because of the amount of AA's I have, my mirror has a full respc on it and I'm not going to use it until 200 - Grouping / soloing is the answer
I don't think it is the 'most worthless' I mean it's not like I went for Getaway..

Being as the post was for raid dps perhaps ... I should have given more consideration along that line rather then my own trees

Perhaps we are not on the same page with the CAs, that .2499999 of a second that it takes to click one CA after another CA completes allows for auto to go off, however if you have the yellow square or Queue on the next CA that's bad mmmkay

It's not like I'm sitting there going Click .(wait for auto)... bong Click ..(wait for auto).. Bong
It is more like: Click Click Click (is this what you were talking about earlier?) - is this now a moot point?

Just not allowing for queuing

So you do agree with the AA line (EoF) and max out Honed Reflex why would you use it spaming CAs while not allowing auto to work? (rhetorical question)

Here is a thread I started a few days ago, it has the regex and TTS for dispatch and a few others

http://www.eq2flames.com/general-act...questions.html


Oh yeah I was talking about +CA as a whole not on the lesser dots more on a Bell Curve for all CAs, I would also agree with the 500. I have not verified but I believe it is applied after the str bonus - Can anyone confirm?
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Old 02-11-2009, 05:00 PM  
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Dude, I'm not even sure what you're talking about. What's your native language?

Cloaked assault parses pretty high, even if you only use it for concealment chains. Thats why I say to put 5 pts into it. points in death mark don't help your dps at all in a raid. Watch your damage in raid, after you hit mark, all the triggers will fire off before your next CA (even if you're spamming and queueing like yu should be). Whereas Cloaked assault increases your dps in raids, in groups, and solo.

Why do you keep saying I'm not allowing my AA to work? You do realize that AA will go off during the .25 (or .5 if you are not spec'd RS) second recovery time between CAs, right? I don't think you are aware of that.

You managed to not answer either of my questions, so I will ask again.

1. Why did you spec Repeated Stabbing if you don't queue up your CAs.

2. What percentage of your total damage do you think comes from AA, and what percentage do you think comes from CAs?
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Old 02-11-2009, 07:03 PM  
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Aamy is 80% with the stones / pots or before? If it is with pots I would say you are a little low and I think you could give up some of the CA for MC

Hoss 990 CA isn't that a little high isn't the point of diminishing returns around 450-550 or so?
Yes that's before stones / pots.
I was also once told 1000 for CA dmg /shrug
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Not long after I betrayed some other assassin told me that the % health reduction doesn't show up on the parse.

Most of my damage comes from CA's with Masked Strike and Pinpoint Blade being the main ones.

DPS is always situational though as it depends on gear, buffs, spell level and how well the mob is being debuffed.
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