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02-09-2009, 11:14 PM
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Cure Cure Cure - Verdict
Guild: Vendetta
Server: Najena
Posts: 224
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Back for more help...
Well I've tried this once already but yet again my parses seem to have fallen....so I'm calling for help
Current AA setup:
STR 46481
AGI 47471
INT 4458
EOF tree:
Specced for repeated stabbings and frontload
http://www.brave-girl.org/eq2stuff/EQ2_000011.jpg
Shadows Tree:
http://www.brave-girl.org/eq2stuff/EQ2_000012.jpg
My current gear:
EQ2 Players - Aamyena
My general group setup is Illus, Troub, Fury/Inquisitor, Wizard, Warlock/Shadowknight, Assassin
I switch between Hemotoxin and Caustic depending on the mobs....for example trash in Tomb of the Mad Crusader (because it dies so quickly) I'll use Caustics (and generally the first 2 named), but for the snake I'll switch to hemo. Everything in Palace I use hemo for.
I hardly ever take off my choker except for like Switchmaster and Byzola...sometimes Maestro depending on the healer, and Trak.
Self buffed this afternoon, parse for a training dummy using hemotoxin:
http://www.brave-girl.org/eq2stuff/dummy_parse.jpg
Cast order is:
Noxious Enfeeblement/HO starter, Bladed Opening, Mesh/Bounty, Mark/Baffle, Disfiguring Strike/Squeeze, Deadly Impale, Scarring Blow, Gushing Wound, Velium Strike/Poison Combination
Concealment, Masked Strike, Pinpoint Blade, Moon Blade, Jugular Slice, Mortal Blade, Execute, Stealth Assault, Slate, Sinister Strike (if applicable) Fatal Followup, Death Blow (if at 19% or lower)
Generally what I'll do is throw Mark and my dots, by then Dispatch has gone off and then I'll throw concealment and come back to things like mesh/disfiguring etc
I use my temp buffs whenever they're up.
I have the auto attack timer for ACT (but I do not time auto attacks, spamming CA's ftw!)
I have a dispatch call in my ACT so that if its resisted/misses I know when it hits
I drink Magma Infusion, use Whetstones and Compoundstones (one on each weapon) and run Tactics pots in raid.
Self buffed I'm standing at 80% melee crit with 990 CA dmg and 889 str (which usually hits over 1000 in raid)
Our raid does, on average, 110-120k in Palace on trash and generally....I'm super low on the parse, not even 8% of the raid.
I'm used to being 10-12% of the raids DPS and for the life of me I cannot figure out why my parses have fallen so low.
Someone....Anyone.....help?
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02-09-2009, 11:32 PM
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Character: Donagoness
Server: Nektulos
Posts: 397
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Re: Back for more help...
How long do you wait around for dispatched to hit before you use concealment?
I don't time my concealments with dispatch (although it is usually already on) because waiting around spamming dots and auto attacking will get you less DPS than hitting your concealment and then refreshing everything afterwards.
Also, what do you prioritise?
I generally try to prioritise mark and pinpoint blade before everything else because they are the most DPS - Efficicient CAs.
You say you start with noxious enfeeblement?
On trash I wouldn't bother casting that shit until you had nothing else up, like when your dots are down, conceal has been cast, and all your other stuff is down, just use it as a gap filler, because trashes crit doesnt really need to be debuffed.
I'd recomend checking your Melee hit rates aswell, sometimes when I do a parse thats lower than usual, its caused by me getting a really bad roll on my auto attack hits
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02-09-2009, 11:53 PM
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Cure Cure Cure - Verdict
Guild: Vendetta
Server: Najena
Posts: 224
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Re: Back for more help...
Cast order is very situational really...that's just the order theyre on my bars in.
If dispatch hasn't gone off by the time I hit mark, and the three dots, I'll conceal, come back and do enfeeblement/mesh/disfiguring etc. Generally though dispatch has gone off by then.
As far as prioritizing goes, I always make sure to hit mark whenever it's up, masked and pinpoint whenever theyre up, and dots (gushing wound, scarring blow, deadly impale), especially when Concealment is down.
Melee hit rates *could* be the issue I guess....but it's not just a parse here and there that's low, its every single parse.
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02-10-2009, 01:04 AM
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Bitsy!
Character: Rhazasaurus
Server: Unrest
Posts: 889
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Re: Back for more help...
Stop being a baddy imo.
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02-10-2009, 01:38 AM
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Cure Cure Cure - Verdict
Guild: Vendetta
Server: Najena
Posts: 224
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Re: Back for more help...
Thanks for the excellent advice Rhaz! I'll get to betraying right away! :p
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02-10-2009, 04:20 AM
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Character: Jackson
Guild: What'ca
Server: Talk'n bout
Posts: 84
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Re: Back for more help...
gear/aa/cast order seem right what sorta numbers are you aiming for? the only parse you posted was on training dummy which was pretty awful so i'm gonna have to agree with rhaz quit sucking.
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02-10-2009, 10:58 AM
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My CA order is //\
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Re: Back for more help...
Cast order - I find I'm topping the parse on short trash fights w/o using my FFchain, I do not 'time' so to speak my CA's anymore - however I also DO NOT QUEUE them! Spamming CA's is fine but DO NOT QUEUE THEM - don't mix your FFchain with your temp buffs that do not apply does no good at all, I don't pop honed reflexes until I cycle through all my non stealth attacks (that is a general comment and does not inclue things like PPB) and use the FF chain, then I come back and pop it with exacting, then I have two others including front load... just all depends the big point here is atleast split it out ffchain and non stealth attks the most important is do not queue attk - you are not giving your auto attk enough time to work, which is your largest issue - I threw up some temp buffs in PB raid and just auto attk'd I topped the parse w/o a single ca - your auto attk is the second best in the game that is the key to dps. If you do not believe me try it, and talk to a ranger them missing two autos is the worst thing they can do
Your AA's are a little off:
STR - 4-6-4-8-1
AGI - 4 -6-4-8-1
INT - 4 -4-4-8
Assassin Tree: You have too much going into temp buffs - while they are nice to increase time amount of time by 3 sec an AA, that is really too costly for what they provide the dps is they provide is really a moot point.
1st line -Get excessive bleeding and leave hidden assult out of it YOUR DEATH MARK IS EMPTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please for the love of Zek populate it if you do nothing else!
2nd line -Personaly I'd throw all of it in cheap shot but what you've done is not bad - neither are really dps - this column/line is fine
Front load, I wanted to get into the TSO tree so I did with out this tree for a little bit. With the amount of AA's you have you can get NE and keep this - the way SOE did the AA's you really have no benifit from taking more then 20 aa out of the assassin tree and moving it to TSO when you have 140AA - the next 20 (140-160) should go to pay back your assassin tree filling back in frontload
When I did have enough AA I went back and filled it in quickly I think you have enough AA to keep frontload but you have to get rid of the temp buff AA's and put them in better locations
Keep the front load tree - I would skip bliss toss it into Apply Toxins and get frontload (21 AA total)- toxins helps in groups and helps dps in raids -if you run bliss (w/o AA) and janking aggro your doing your job, they can get you dehate and with a trouby in your group you should not even worry about running bliss imo - take out that 11aa in temp buffs and move 8 of it over to bleeding - 5 for DEATH MARK and finish up the other two and the end line (this is more important then frontload)
TSO you have a few things that are messed up
General Skills - w/e looks good
Leave quick strike alone but move Sinister strike aa's to offensive prowess (5) and put a point in the deaggro (1) - it's dps and deaggro what will they think of next?!
Insidious strike needs to be moved to Cut Arteries (Critical mastery is good) and your point in NE
You will have 1 aa point left over I would start filling in Sinister strike with this.
Random Rambblings:
NE - Deaggro (tso) Resourceful weapon and the front arrow attk are awesome for incoming dmg I'm second on the parse for engagement my dps is hitting the parse and by the time the other assassins are past me using ffchains I'm just getting ready for mine, I also blow my non stealth attks first to mit some of the dmg I'm doing on inc not to spike to fast too soon, and by the time I blow all of them and I'm rdy for FFchain Dispatch is just going off and my FF is back up when Dispatch is
Gear wise you can make about 3 changes (some of your gear is better then mine) You want to switch out the shoulders to T2 LEATHER shoulders the ones with +3 Melee Crit and 8% base dmg This is a huge upgrade for you
Get you a belt with some crit on it, the one from RE is nice, has str and crit and switch out the gloves to the T2 CHAIN armor w/ haste they have str and more haste then that belt - the belt will make up Crit you lose on the gloves and the gloves will make up for the belt
I'm not even going to touch on your jank necklace atleast do get something with MC your killing me here! (You posted typically you wear the choker just yank'n yer crank)
One Last thing Katie - now that I have your phone number and email address can we get a pic?
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Last edited by _Anonymous_; 02-10-2009 at 11:14 AM.
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02-10-2009, 01:47 PM
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And this time, Don't Suck!
Character: Tool
Guild: Prophecy Reborn
Server: Mistmoore
Posts: 7,647
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Re: Back for more help...
I'm not even sure if you were serious.
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I do not 'time' so to speak my CA's anymore - however I also DO NOT QUEUE them! Spamming CA's is fine but DO NOT QUEUE THEM -
the most important is do not queue attk - you are not giving your auto attk enough time to work, which is your largest issue -
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You can't be serious. Auto attacks dont need any time to go off. the .25s recovery time between CAs is about .249999999999 seconds more than it needs
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don't mix your FFchain with your temp buffs that do not apply does no good at all, I don't pop honed reflexes until I cycle through all my non stealth attacks (that is a general comment and does not inclue things like PPB) and use the FF chain, then I come back and pop it with exacting, then I have two others including front load...
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How long are these fights lasting that you're talking about? On names that are 5 min or longer fights, yeah you have a good routine. but if you're not pre-casting these buffs on trash (that lives less than 1 min) you're wasting your time casting the buffs at all.
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Assassin Tree: You have too much going into temp buffs - while they are nice to increase time amount of time by 3 sec an AA, that is really too costly for what they provide the dps is they provide is really a moot point.
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The same could be said for all of the assassin line. Other than the poison line, none of it gives a great benefit.
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Originally Posted by _Anonymous_
1st line -Get excessive bleeding and leave hidden assult out of it YOUR DEATH MARK IS EMPTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please for the love of Zek populate it if you do nothing else!
5 for DEATH MARK and finish up the other two and the end line (this is more important then frontload)
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Are you serious? Have you ever watched how fast death mark goes off in a raid? Its instant dude. Maybe in groups this would be good advice, because a lot of times DM never goes off for me in groups. Also, have you ever looked at your parse and seen how high cloaked assault parses? Yeah, and thats with you only hitting it half the time its up. Fucking stupid not to put 5 pts in it. Put 3 points in freezing strike so you can put 5 in cloaked and not waste any in deathmark.
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2nd line -Personaly I'd throw all of it in cheap shot but what you've done is not bad - neither are really dps - this column/line is fine
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Because there are a lot of raid mobs that this works on?
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Front load, I wanted to get into the TSO tree so I did with out this tree for a little bit.
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Again, its the only one in eof really worth getting. Repeated stabbings is good too, but you have to take a bunch of shit to unlock it.
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Leave quick strike alone but move Sinister strike aa's to offensive prowess (5)
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Are you not hard capped on your weapon skills when raiding? hell, I am and I'm a scrub
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Insidious strike needs to be moved to Cut Arteries (Critical mastery is good) and your point in NE
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Is cut arteries still bugged? If so, is kind of a stupid bit of advice.
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One Last thing Katie - now that I have your phone number and email address can we get a pic?
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If you don't have them already, its too late. She can't keep handing those things out to every johnny come lately.
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If you do not believe me try it, and talk to a ranger them missing two autos is the worst thing they can do
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i think you should roll a ranger tbh. Don't even betray, delete this toon and roll a ranger.
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02-10-2009, 02:29 PM
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Bitsy!
Character: Rhazasaurus
Server: Unrest
Posts: 889
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Re: Back for more help...
Holy fuck dude, Hoss is right, I haven't played in... some amount of time... and I know you're god damned awful.
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