Pryz

dirge would be preferred yes, but depending what else is in that group could offset the troubador *HINT HINT*

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Jayad

Are you saying you took Repeated Stabbing? Because everything in that tree to get to it is not worth anything to a raider except the Cripppling enhancer. I'm not clear on whether you took R.S., frontload, or what.

I tried the hemotoxin line a ways back and didn't see a huge difference, but my gear, skills, & group setups have changed since then so I might give it another try.

To get to frontload you have to put 20 points into poisons, which is pretty painful. Then again it's not really that great in the bleeding line so... It's something to try. I was planning to experiment some at 100 AA. There's always more to learn and improve.

Raina

Well, it seems that among the more noobish assassins that seem to have taken over the assassin forums on the main boards that being able to own the parses in a zonewide means nothing. Thats why people are having such a hard time dealing with MB and LB.

I took repeated stabbing, although I cant say my DPS went up in a very noticeable way I have no doubt it did somewhat, Im not very good at keeping track of my parses over long periods of time.

Pryz

I dont have frontload, and yes i took stabbing. I don't know but for my playstyle repeated stabbing didn't boost my single fight dps by a ton, but it made my dps much more consistent since we pull and move through zones so fast which is why my zonewides are so high is because i can maintain better with stabbings

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Jayad

Do you mind posting your AA selections?

Faabio

Assassin AAs are horrible.

For that reason it makes sense because it balances us out with nearly every other T1 dps class.

A well played assassin is still going to be on the top of the parse, regardless of what you noobs think.

Who ever doubts Stabbing can suck my ratonga dick, the less time you spend casting your CAs the more time you have to autoattack, not a hard concept to understand, is it?

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Steelbadger

That utter crap on the forums has finally got to me, long week, exams, and whiney bitches worried about their e-peen got the better of me.

"If your swashy is parsing below you then they SUCK"

fuck off, such negative fucking views, is it IMPOSSIBLE that the Assassin actually has a clue? Is it IMPOSSIBLE that the reason you ARE NOT winning is because YOU SUCK?

That is such an utter peice of crap, that every time I read it I want to punch the person that says it.


Another thing: "Swashies routinely parse 3-4k"

Once again, utter BS, the day I find a swashy that can parse 4k zonewide is the day I manifest as God of all creation.

Oh, maybe you mean single fights? Then your point has abso-fucking-lutely NOTHING to do with the point at hand. An assassin can parse 6K + if they choose to go completely insane, and god knows what a Lifeburn could drag down in a short fight.

And what is this crap about our AA's sucking? And wtf does that have to do with our CLASS?

Fuck all, we had the parse all to ourselves in KoS, now that we have to share people have got bee's up their arses. We DON'T NEED a Manaburn or Lifeburn equivalent to tear up the parse.

All I see now on the forums is whines about how Wizzies, or Necro's, or Swashies can outparse us, apparently, according to the whiners, by factors of 10 or MORE!!

Omg, you're right, We do suck, all those times that assassins come out top on zonewides where ALL a figment of my imagination, or simply because the Swashy "sucked"

Fuck off, either say "We have a really good swashy that always parses really high, well done" or "I'm being beaten by a swashy, what am I doing wrong?"

None of this "Wahh!!! I can't beat a swashy on the parser!! NuRf TeHm!!!!"

I couldn't give a flying fuck about their Utility, we're assassins, we HAVE no utility, comparing an assassin to a swashy is like comparing a bullet to a brick, sure, they both hit hard when used well, but I'm as sure as hell that I ain't gonna use bullets to build my house. But... we still use bullets? why? Bricks can kill, so why do we even HAVE bullets?

Because Assassins do dps better! Even a half asleep assassin can pull some impressive numbers out of their asses.

And those Swashies specced for dps... wtf? Why? That is the most self serving attitude I know. Hmmm... either increase my zonewide by 500, or increase EVERYONE'S zonewide by 250?

Why the fuck would they choose to increase their own dps?

If a Swashy is competing with you on the parse it is because they DO NOT KNOW HOW TO PLAY A SWASHY.

Its like a Brigand deliberately not calling Dispatch so that they can up their own dps.

Assassins? Shut the fuck up.
DPS Swashies? Learn to play a swashy PROPERLY.

And yes, I'm a crap assassin, in crap gear, in a crap guild, on a crap server.

Bite me.

Pinski

Because Debuffing is such a hard thing to do as a Swashbuckler, which for some odd/strange reason seems to also include the fact that their DPS comes from their Debuff attacks. God you're retarded on that fact alone. You are so retarded if you think Swashbuckler debuffs INCREASE dps. They do not. They decrease DPS from the fucking mob. Please, learn what the fuck the class does before shouting fucking retarded thoughts.

So in the end, shut the fuck up because you're a motherfucking retard when it comes to talking about Swashbucklers.

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razieh

I think he was referring more to swashbucklers that spec agi wis rather than str wis for tramatic.

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Raina

Ya I think so too and I love how someone saying one thing that may be off or perceived to be off totally negates everything else they said even if everything else was on.

The only reason I see a swashy going DPS is because the guild doesnt need more tramatic swipes or something. Cause brigs get it too, I dont know how beneficial it actually is to have more than one rogue with tramatic swipe. Pardon my ignorance.