Raina

I have had many personal conversations on this subject and I am curious what others think.

It is my conclusion that it is worthwhile, but only with very limited circumstances and on the whole not worthwhile. A couple things need to be available to make it worthwhile. Need the right weapon and a certain sustainable amount of haste that places the swing for autoattack directly between casting CAs with the least amount of dead time between.

That window is going to be pretty small, but if it can be achieved its going to add a lot. It only makes sense to try and time with gdoh and like bisected saber, but even then I personally dont think that being idle for any amount of time for the swing would be better than keeping the CAs going. Obviously just spamming CAs is not a good thing to, have to be able to react to various things throughout a fight that is going to add more to the parse. So dont just spam your CAs :D

Jayad

I don't really time them. There's only a few CAs which have any real cast time. Those, you might want to be careful with. All my opinion anyways

Raina

I dont either, but I hear quite a few people saying they do. I dont see it as being too worthwhile and its quite possible they are hurting their parse more than helping it. Its my understanding that autoattack will go off anyway if theres any dead time, like recovery between CAs and the only time it really hurts is when casting a long CA and the autoattack is set to hit sometime during that cast.

Jayad

Auto-attack always goes off if it can. You can delay it while casting and recovering. What hurts is if you are delaying it regularly to the point where the DPS you gain by faster CAs is less than the auto-attack dmg you are missing. Which I think on assassins is almost never. If a CA takes longer than 1 second to cast, then I think it might be worth worrying about it. It's a different situation with a ranger for example where they have long delay weapons and long casting CAs.

Satinah

We are not rangers. Priority is getting CAs out and FAST.

The only thing you can do really, is when your done with your major CAs and in sustain mode just refreshing debuffs/dots that already overlap eachother, to sort of time them after the melee goes off, usually the right time for honed/deadly focus too.

Vsai

Take a moment and consider what timing CA's with auto attack really means...

You want to eat up your auto attack timers in such a way that your CA damage doesnt interfere, using rigid scale bow as an example back out to 5m, fire off a nice 5-12k bow shot to eat up your auto attack timer, then go nuts chaining all the CA's you like, can get through an entire concealment burn without missing a beat, and since you don't auto attack in stealth you gain DPS simply by organizing your time better... just one example.

Mortred

Id like to see an assassin with a ranger setup.. See how ya do :P

Satinah

For trayloth i swap ranged gear on, its one of my favorite encounters and i find myself doing about what rangers are and my bow sux. . . granted i have dots ticking and jousting for CAs too, pretty fun.

@ Vsai. . . thats a great idea, its something ive been trying to utilize, but still waiting on my frigging bow

Mortred

Just looking in theory, and just numbers off the top of my head.. Without procs, I think having a bow setup with crafted or DT ammo would work for much higher dps than you normally do now.. I think its worth a try..

Remember, what ive said so far is just some thoughts.

Pinski

Recovery time does not effect auto-attack, contrary to popular belief.

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