What the hell is going on?

Vladamier · 06-22-2009, 04:57 PM

First off, can someone explain the changes made to excessive bleeding. It used to decrease max health for "each" bleeding ability active on target, but now it's called excessive gushing wounding and says decreases max health for each gushing wounding ability active on target? Okay....well that sounds like it's telling you to use Gushing Wound one through seven...which is just silly. So what is the deal with that?

My concealment combos keep getting interrupted for unknown reasons, almost every fight, and I can't figure out whats causing them to break. Is this a bug or has anyone else had this problem?

Increasing my INT still raises my base poison damage, but it's only showing the increase in my inventory when I highlight the poisons....in the buff window it reads as 542 damage with Hemo no matter what I do or what group I'm in. Re-applying them doesn't change anything either.

And how are you guys liking the STA line over the INT line so far? I've been trying it out since the INT line seems almost useless now...but how are your parses stacking up with the STA line versus what INT does now?

Hoss · 06-22-2009, 05:21 PM

No matter what it is called, all 4 of the same abilities that it always affected still have the extra green text. So I wouldn't worry about it being called excessive gushing wound. It was a stupid name change. I don't feel like looking this up, but my guess is that bleeding was the first dot we got, and thats why the line used its name. When they made the spell name changes, that got changed by default.

Funny side note, I've noticed EB affects some ranger DOTS as well. Not that a ranger can use it, but if you examine the ranger spell you get the green text.

Concealment combos is likely because you are fighting orange mobs and simply missing (or getting parried). I have the same trouble in the new zones, but not so much in the older ones.

Dunno about the other two questions. There has always been some sort of display bug for hemo (and apply toxins) in the buff window. I've never paid much attention to it. I'm still int spec'd. I'll probably try wis and sta in the next coupla weeks. Trying to get a good baseline for the int line after the update before I switch out of it.

crazeof · 06-22-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoss

No matter what it is called, all 4 of the same abilities that it always affected still have the extra green text. So I wouldn't worry about it being called excessive gushing wound. It was a stupid name change. I don't feel like looking this up, but my guess is that bleeding was the first dot we got, and thats why the line used its name. When they made the spell name changes, that got changed by default.

Funny side note, I've noticed EB affects some ranger DOTS as well. Not that a ranger can use it, but if you examine the ranger spell you get the green text.

Concealment combos is likely because you are fighting orange mobs and simply missing (or getting parried). I have the same trouble in the new zones, but not so much in the older ones.

Dunno about the other two questions. There has always been some sort of display bug for hemo (and apply toxins) in the buff window. I've never paid much attention to it. I'm still int spec'd. I'll probably try wis and sta in the next coupla weeks. Trying to get a good baseline for the int line after the update before I switch out of it.

yes ive noticed the same thing on the ranger aspect

Sharach · 06-22-2009, 07:32 PM

I've noticed the same thing about concealment chains. Happens mostly with orange mobs as Hoss said, but doing it a lot more since the update.

Seems that way.

Vladamier · 06-22-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharach

I've noticed the same thing about concealment chains. Happens mostly with orange mobs as Hoss said, but doing it a lot more since the update.

Seems that way.

Yeah it's strange, sometimes I can get off half of my FF chain, sometimes only 1-2 backstabs and sometimes all of them and get a full concealment combo in, I've seen it happen before where the chain will just break, your stealth cancels and a few seconds later your backstabs light up again on your hotbar, but by then concealment is about to wear off and it's too late to finish the combo

Most of this has been happening in EA and Kurn's tower though so it could just be the zones, but it was never a big problem before.

Evolution_LDL · 06-23-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharach

I've noticed the same thing about concealment chains. Happens mostly with orange mobs as Hoss said, but doing it a lot more since the update.

Seems that way.

yep, orange mobs are more "resiliant" now to our concealment chain. You really have to wait a bit longer so that they are debuffed hardcore before launching it.

Having Experts gracelessness, Sinister Strike (if applicable), Squeeze (or whatever it's called now), Crippling Strike all on the mob prior to the chain while running Deadly Focus, you'd think be enough... nope.

Davngr · 06-23-2009, 11:31 AM

i always try to slap a Ho before i drop conceal.. not saying it's 100% but it helps.

Hoss · 06-23-2009, 12:45 PM

I'm all for slapping a ho. But even if you get the buff from her, those skills don't help your combat arts hit, do they?

Eweh · 06-23-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoss

I'm all for slapping a ho. But even if you get the buff from her, those skills don't help your combat arts hit, do they?

Yes since the last LU they do.

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Originally Posted by Vladamier

the chain will just break, your stealth cancels and a few seconds later your backstabs light up again on your hotbar, but by then concealment is about to wear off and it's too late to finish the combo

It's not that your stealth cancels, it's that one of your backstabs misses and the following autoattack puts you back into stealth.
This happens a lot with some mobs that parry/avoid like crazy.

Chapel · 06-23-2009, 04:05 PM

Slaping a HO normally results in her pimp stabbing you...why the fuck would you do that???