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Old 08-08-2009, 12:14 AM  
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Default So...Hemotoxin or Caustic?

IMO before the proc nerf hemo was uncontested i compared to other sins using caustic...all the other scouts ect and it always seemed to pull off higher numbers.....

but im noticing now that on trash ect caustic can achieve 1k more DPS than hemo in some situations....but still on the ZW hemo seems to prevail.....what do you all think? use caustic for trash, then switch? thoughts?
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Old 08-08-2009, 12:53 AM  
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What are you killing? Are you talking about running the crypt of agony or something?
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Old 08-08-2009, 01:04 AM  
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IMO before the proc nerf hemo was uncontested i compared to other sins using caustic...all the other scouts ect and it always seemed to pull off higher numbers.....

but im noticing now that on trash ect caustic can achieve 1k more DPS than hemo in some situations....but still on the ZW hemo seems to prevail.....what do you all think? use caustic for trash, then switch? thoughts?
I think you'll have to test this yourself to find which is better, tbh.

But in my experience, this is what i've found :

On an AE fight (raiding such as gynok) (or like any heroic instance) hemotoxin is better than caustic by a long stretch, especially with stamina line. This is because it is ticking on the mobs without being overwritten, allowing more damage than a single tick of caustic.

If you have alot of proc enhancers, then caustic could outparse hemotoxin, you'll just have to test it out in your raid set ups though (blessings - templar, and luck of the dirge - dirge, ancestry - mystic) are the proc enhancers, i THINK they all effect poisons.

If your bards in your raid have the t2 shard armor BP (might be able to get a t3 one), (or the t4 5 set) then that adds a proc chance enhancer to CoB and POTM (not 100% sure it effects poisons) but if it does, that'll give caustic a big boost too.

So basically, the more proc enhancers you have, the closer caustic gets to beating hemotoxin, you'll have to test the takeover point yourself though - except on AE fights, hemotoxin > all here.

Another point is - If you are fighting a mob with alot of avoidance, where hit rates are dire, then it might be an idea to just slap on hemotoxin. The reason behind this is, if you are missing the mob alot, atleast there is a hemotoxin ticking on it while you are repeatadley missing, which will allow it to fully tick before another hits - hence doing more damage than caustic.
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Oh yeah - and make sure you have 5 AA points wacked into hemotoxin before you consider any of that stuff I just said!
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IMO before the proc nerf hemo was uncontested i compared to other sins using caustic...all the other scouts ect and it always seemed to pull off higher numbers.....

but im noticing now that on trash ect caustic can achieve 1k more DPS than hemo in some situations....but still on the ZW hemo seems to prevail.....what do you all think? use caustic for trash, then switch? thoughts?
templar and a dirge in grp=caustic, grp instance bs fukin trash caustic, all else hemo
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Old 08-08-2009, 05:28 AM  
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I guess it depends on group kuz I'm usually with a templar/dirge so I run caustic pretty much all the time, and like dona said most bards have the shard BP that increases proc chance.
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Old 08-12-2009, 02:01 AM  
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templar and a dirge in grp=caustic, grp instance bs fukin trash caustic, all else hemo
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I say fuck group instances..they're lucky if they get t7 hemo..save my poisons for raiding TBH. but yeah, basically like everyone is saying, templar+Dirge=caustic. I say, if you hav ethis combo all the time I wouldn't put points in Hemo TBH..unless you use that to get frontload, which is another discussion Here;
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Old 08-12-2009, 02:20 AM  
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[quoteivexo;1066752]<?I say fuck group instances..they're lucky if they get t7 hemo..save my poisons for raiding TBH. but yeah, basically like everyone is saying, templar+Dirge=caustic. I say, if you hav ethis combo all the time I wouldn't put points in Hemo TBH..unless you use that to get frontload, which is another discussion Here; [/quote sounds to me like its a coin flip then eh? i guess each is to there own, and no i wouldnt dump the 5 out of hemo atm
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Old 08-12-2009, 02:24 AM  
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see your app'n to element, they look pretty solid
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Old 08-13-2009, 01:11 AM  
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It's bad to not put 5 in Hemo, even if you don't use it.
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