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Old 04-27-2007, 12:22 PM  
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With the introduction of the RigidScale bow, I am thinking that it is almost mendatory to take a step back every 9s (or 5 s with illz) to fire off an auto range melee.

First of all, I didnt spend much DKP on the bow yet, since we suck at getting scale drop. So the info is from ACT parser off our Ranger, Brigand and Dirge with the bow. I see that it can crit up to 9-12k on a ranger and hit for 5-7k on normal attack.

5-7k is only a little worst than killing blade.

I am starting to wonder if I should try a morph assassin/ranger build?
Where I would sacrifice int line for Range Crit.

Basically dumping all my CA with in first 20 sec and doing a 5 sec in and out on a combination of melee, and range melee using the 5 meters sweet spot.

Anyone tried that ?
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didnt try that since i dont have that bow too but sounds good
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Old 04-27-2007, 07:06 PM  
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5-7k every 4-5s (assuming reasonable haste) is at best ~1000-1400 dps - assuming you never miss. We don't get ranged crit boosts for the most part. With a realistic 75% hit rate it might be 750-1100 dps. Assuming you don't get all the ranged attacks off like you'd like (due to a melee CA triggering a melee auto-attack) it's not that much better than melee auto-attack when you figure in procs and such.

However, it does say how sad things are where you'd want to consider it. The quality of bows is so much better than the quality of DWs, when you factor in rare ammo. SOE has made a serious mistake with that.

If you took ranged crits instead of spell crits in the KOS tree, it might be more viable, if you can get your ranged skill up there. Hmmm..
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I think it's a big mistake to remove Int line, you will loose mark and poison crits what hits more than the ranged stuff.
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With the introduction of the RigidScale bow, I am thinking that it is almost mendatory to take a step back every 9s (or 5 s with illz) to fire off an auto range melee.

First of all, I didnt spend much DKP on the bow yet, since we suck at getting scale drop. So the info is from ACT parser off our Ranger, Brigand and Dirge with the bow. I see that it can crit up to 9-12k on a ranger and hit for 5-7k on normal attack.

5-7k is only a little worst than killing blade.

I am starting to wonder if I should try a morph assassin/ranger build?
Where I would sacrifice int line for Range Crit.

Basically dumping all my CA with in first 20 sec and doing a 5 sec in and out on a combination of melee, and range melee using the 5 meters sweet spot.

Anyone tried that ?
When triggering your Ranged auto attack you have to wait for that delay to run out before meleeing begins to hit.
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Old 04-29-2007, 01:54 AM  
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When triggering your Ranged auto attack you have to wait for that delay to run out before meleeing begins to hit.
Really? LIKE OMG! Amazing at how many retards don't know this.
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Old 04-29-2007, 08:02 AM  
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IF you want to include your bow to maximize your DPS, I'd suggest using it before concealment, since you'll be stealth chaining and not hitting with melee auto attack anyway. Thus, it will interrupt your melee auto attack as little as possible, while, err, I don't know how to explain it, but it should be pretty easy to see.

I'm not sure of any other instances, since my assassin play time is somewhat limited, but I'm sure you assassins may know another.
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Old 04-30-2007, 11:40 AM  
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Really? LIKE OMG! Amazing at how many retards don't know this.
So you’re a retard if you don’t know every little nuisance of one particular video game----interesting point of view.

I think people post questions so they can learn, and get feedback, and I dont think that is retarded, since, we are not born with this info.
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Old 04-30-2007, 01:08 PM  
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5-7k every 4-5s (assuming reasonable haste) is at best ~1000-1400 dps - assuming you never miss. We don't get ranged crit boosts for the most part. With a realistic 75% hit rate it might be 750-1100 dps. Assuming you don't get all the ranged attacks off like you'd like (due to a melee CA triggering a melee auto-attack) it's not that much better than melee auto-attack when you figure in procs and such.

However, it does say how sad things are where you'd want to consider it. The quality of bows is so much better than the quality of DWs, when you factor in rare ammo. SOE has made a serious mistake with that.

If you took ranged crits instead of spell crits in the KOS tree, it might be more viable, if you can get your ranged skill up there. Hmmm..

I got my rigid last night, and I was doing 2k with out buff and with shitty vender arrows. But 5-7k Crit is normal. And if you read my post, I am saying if I go down range crit line.
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Old 04-30-2007, 02:01 PM  
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Let me clarify.

Bow melee 5sec, regular melee 2sec/1 sec

Consider this
You move back and fire auto bow 0 sec
Move in 1 sec
Couple of CA 4 sec
Melee 5 sec
Repeat.

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