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    Default Re: Assassin AA Tree's

    The only AA build that matters:









    Keep in mind shit like pot/bonus on the heroic tree and other miniscule things like that depend on YOUR stats and what you are lacking. If you have 20 more bonus than pot, then max pot obviously. Don't be dumb.

    Also, if you're raiding HM (especially Drunder) MAKE SURE YOU FUCKING MIRROR A SPEC THAT MAXES NOX ENFEEBLEMENT AT THE EXPENSE OF PFT AND 2 POINTS IN KS. NOXIOUS ENFEEBLEMENT IS CRAZY POWERFUL ON HM CONTENT THAT YOU HAVEN'T DEFEATED YET ESPECIALLY STUPID AS FUCK DRUNDER SHIT WITH 380 BILLION CRIT BONUS.

    As for casting order:

    Parsing well is totally dependent on gear/AA/group setup and buffs. Most of the time if you are parsing low but your breakdowns are close to others its your stats and shit wrecking your numbers.

    As far as "how" to do it, its pretty easy. Lets say you're fighting a short duration single target named:

    On incoming make sure your temps are up, except PFT. Get all of your dots and things on the mob that are affected by exacting so you can get them up again while exacting is still up. After that do all of your normal CAs/positional CAs that don't require stealth. After that you can get a masked/ambush in. I assume by now the mob is at 50% or less. Pop PFT and do your entire concealment chain including blue AEs finishing with fatal followup and then hit deathblow. Ideally the mob should die shortly after you finish.

    IN A RAID SETTING:

    Best group imo: Bruiser, Dirge, Ily, Mystic, Inq

    GET A BRAWLER THAT LISTENS TO YOU IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT THAT HE CASTS COMBAT MASTERY AT OR NEAR 30% AND THAT YOU GET IN YOUR PFT CHAIN AND SHIT THAT HITS HARD LIKE SHADOW STEP AND DEATH BLOW WHILE THAT BUFF IS UP.

    Having a non-stupid brawler who is able to interpret fight durations is important because some named will die slow enough for a CM on/near pull and a CM on/near 30% while others will only allow for one CM which NEEDS TO BE AT/UNDER 30% FOR US TO PERFORM AT OUR BEST.

    Another overlooked but vital buff is RoA from either shaman. You need to be spammed with RoA non-stop. Bolster and ancestry are hot too but most shaman are greedy whores with those buffs unless you're emo and cry and complain constantly like me (which still doesn't always work).

    Also, get fucking BC from your dirge especially if you have an ily because the dirge gets IA and poison and you get BC and AoI. Even without an ily they get poison, you get BC. That is the fucking deal. If they won't BC you because they're jackasses who think they can parse well (and they can't, only Buffrat can and even he BCs me) then put poison on the fighter or the priest or a fucking pet and laugh in your shitty dirges face as he boasts about his 35k VC.

    That is about all there is to it. Longer fights you want to be sure you're keeping your dots on (especially deathmark) and that you're only using concealment when you have fatal followup available. Ideally you want to use all of your stealth CAs except for mortal/assassinate everytime you use concealment, or else FFU isn't modified enough to warrant its use.

    If a named is a 70 second burn using mortal during the first conceal chain is stupid because it won't be up under 30% when you get your 15% damage increase and up'd bonus from PFT running, however if its a two minute fight its dumb not to use it early because you'll be able to get it in twice.

    KEEP IN MIND THAT YOUR TWO BLUE AEs HAVE THE HIGHEST FFU MODIFIER SO YOU WANT TO USE THEM WITH YOUR CHAIN AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE.

    Use masked with ambush, never use masked for shit like SA. If you want to keep up SA outside of chains do so using stalk, since they have the same recast.

    Oh, and you really should time your autoattacks. Some assassins say its not vaulable but it is, moreso now that you can get so much MA and flurry.

    Timing auto-attacks also includes DOING SO DURING CONCEALMENT. What I've found to be easiest is to put the melee attack hotbar button near all my stealth CAs so as I'm casting through my concealment chain I can hit the melee auto attack button as my timer bar fills up to get an auto in which will restealth me so I can continue the concealment chain. You should be able to get one auto in with a 6.0 and two with a 4.0 during a normal conceal chain, give or take.

    I'm a clicker though so if you're a keyboard spammer do what works for you =x

    Parsing as an assassin is gear, AA, buffs and encounter awareness. You need to have a general idea of how long the fight is going to last so you know when to get stuff in. If its a short burn blow your load early, if its a longer duration encounter save your big hitters until the end.

    As far as zonewides go you don't want to waste assassinate on trash and then not have it up for a named.

    Stuff like that, I suppose.

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    Default Re: Assassin AA Tree's

    Gaige give me your MA :P

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    Its pretty low, not even over 500 solo

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    What happened to the 19 pages of horseshit over debuffs!

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    I'm a keyboard spammer, what I find useful to do to fit in auto attacks in between concealment chain is to key bind either the "F" key or "E" or "G" to your melee auto attack button on your hot bar. That way you can easily click it when you need to throw in an auto attack. (just make sure that auto attack doesn't miss!)

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    Default Re: Assassin AA Tree's

    My aa spec look very similar to what Gaige posted (as any frequent reader of these boards should) but I'm having a hard time letting go of the reuse in heroic tree. Isnt 10% reuse > potency/bonus?

    I have a mystic in my group who is giving RoA to me 95% of the time and I usualy get the jcap when i ask for it. I know both mortal/assassinate caps with the foci but stuff like SS and FFU only caps when roa and jcap are casted at the same time.

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    Default Re: Assassin AA Tree's

    With constant RoAs and JCs on pull I don't think that 10% reuse is > the pot/bonus, no.

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    Default Re: Assassin AA Tree's

    i suppose you are right. if the fights had been longer then a few minutes maybe the reuse would have come to better use...

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    Default Re: Assassin AA Tree's

    With the curve on DMG increase from agility is it not better to put those 10 points in either the ability mod or even hp? I'm thinking the 10 points in the stats gives about a 2.5% boost to dmg with my stats. Question is would 300+ ability mod or 5% health not outway 2.5% dmg boost?
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    Default Re: Assassin AA Tree's

    the stat boost is hard to calculate out right since it's dependent on how much you have. i would take the mod my self but the fact taht auto attack is actually doing well over 30% of assassin damage these days might make the smaller boost to everything including auto better or at least just as good.

    that's a good build but you need to adjust it to your own raiding predicament for instance if your troub is an asshole and only jcaps mages (yes i have heard this shit) then you're better off taking the 10% reuse but if you're in a situation were you don't have to raid with nubs then you're ok boosting potency or cb.

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