titanax

Hi,

I am having problems maintaining my DPS, 1/40 times I get it up to 1.2k, but after that it dwindles back down to 600. This is really bad for for me as a dps class. Please advise what I'm doing wrong, or advise me on how I should stack my CAs.

This is my order: Intox. Slip Away > Cloaked Assault. Masked Attack > Killing Blade. Poison > 3 DoTs. Concealment > Juglar, Puncture Blade, Eviscerate ( & Slaughtersault if it allows me) . Other frontal attacks. Crippling Strike & finish with Finishing Blow. I get my Exaction & Deadly Focus up whenever I can.

For raids I'm never in the MT group & my MT assassin easily parsers between 1.8k to 2.5k - I am way behind...


Issues that I face:
After spamming all, it takes a while to recast - what should I do meanwhile?

With multiple mobs, I have problems facing them correctly. Most of the time I notice my Combat tab stating" You must be in stealth or behind your enemy". It takes me time to align myself & i lose out on the time it wastes.

My concealment does not always work, sometimes I can trigger 4 attacks, sometimes 1, & sometimes it does not let me go to stealth at all - I dont know why.


My Gear:
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Armour:
Nemesis Set
Weapon
Pri : DoN
Sec : Absolution

Jewelery:
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Treasured Mostly
MC Agility & STR rings
2x STR hex dolls

AA:
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STR / INT line
Poision : hemotoxin & warding ebb

luka

i really dont understand that. in mt group my twink does as your mt assassin on parses, with ~ crap equip ( http://eq2players.station.sony.com/c...erId=490096210 )

concealment sucks sometimes, after you cast it throw a dot or something and it will trigger, then you can use your stealth attacks

with the spell order i can't really help you, cause i only got the german spellnames :P
the only thing i can say about it is something like keep your dots up, debuff it first, and then go on with the hard stealth attacks.. with your weapons its not really necessary to time your auto attack, but with long delay weapons do it (that means, throw dot, auto attack, throw next dot, auto attack...)

hope i helped you a little, but remember my assassin is an alt and its possible that everything i just said is wrong :P but i'm doing pretty good with it. i think cochy for example can help you a lot more :>

Steelbadger

My suggestions:

Intox first, which you are doing (make sure you cast it before the pull however)
Invis
Cloaked Assault (Up to here you are fine)
Debuffs!! More Debuffs. Where is Enmesh? Where is Constriction?
First thing you do after leaving invis is to cast Enmesh and Constriction.
Always use Masked attack with Puncture Blade, they have identical cool downs and this allows you to cast both of them the moment they come up.
Try to use Crippling Strike either just before a Concealment, or as the starter to get yourself into stealth for concealment, it means you are extremely unlikely to be blocked, parried or avoided.
My skill order goes something like this:

Intoxication > Slip Away > Cloaked Assault > Constriction > Enmesh > Exacting if it is up > 3 dots > Masked Attack > Puncture Blade > Here it becomes situational, if Dispatch is called I use Concealment > Crippling Strike/Freezing Strike > Killing Blade > Decap (if up) > Eviscerate (always up, same reuse as Concealment) > Jugular (same as eviscerate) > either Cloaked Assault or Slaughtersault (can do both if Killing blade is down, which it will be 50% of the time).

If No Dispatch is called I just cycle Enmesh, Constriction, 3 DoTs, Masked Attack and Puncture Blade (especially when Exacting is running)

At the end I just keep my standard rotation but chuck in Finishing Blow when I have time.

With that skill order I rarely have nothing to do, if I do find myself with nothing to do, I take in my surroundings

Concerning positioning, the only thing I can offer is practice, make sure that you take in where all the mobs are before your current target dies, this saves valuable seconds. I also occasionally use Crippling Strike to look for the rears of mobs hidden in some way.

Using your debuffs means that the mob has considerably less defense, and you should have far fewer misses while in concealment (which is your problem)

Also ensure that your Piercing skill is as close to 450 as possible, this will also mean less misses.

Hope that helps

TrodUnderfoot

A few questions/random thoughts:

1) What's your STR raid-buffed? Actually, what do you get in terms of raid buffs?
2) Are all your CAs at least Adept3?
3) What is your piercing skill / to-hit%?
4) Did you take Malignant Mark as your M2 choice? Are you using it every single time it's up?
5) How long are fights taking? Do you have debuffers in your raid? Are they using their debuffs? In my admitedly limited experience, having a good brigand in the raid practically doubles my DPS.

If you have access to ACT, it may be helpful if you post a screenshot of the pie chart breakdown of your DPS.

All that said, 600 seems to be really low. Not exactly sure how that's happening. I'm using the exact same weapons, and my autoattack is averaging around 400ish DPS. Hemotoxin another 100ish, and Malignant Mark another 100. Unless you're OOP 90% of the fights, and only able to use Malignant Mark and no other CAs, those numbers should be higher.

Badb

As steelbadger pointed out, it's important to have your debuffs up from the start. i usually throw mine, including poison combo, right after the bleeding arts. Using masked with puncture blade, too. If you wanna throw in killing blade early, there's always surveillance, or getaway if you have it.
As far as piercing skill goes, trying to have swindler's luck up as much as possible helps. I have a lucky break/constriction/scraping blow that i'll throw at trash every now and then.
Not sure how much sustained haste, dps mod, and crit mod you got... it's nice to have these at a healthy level.
Proc items will add to your dps too. ie planar orb, zek's cloak etc.
Combat arts at master1 when possible : that's a huge help obviously.
And there's the group you're in... plays a big part

Just what i could think of for now; it's early...

Diceeno

what grp youre usually in?
who is parsing that for you?
i cant understand why youre running on 600dps. get a parser, for example advanced combat tracker. learn to use it and itll tell you whats wrong.

some spontanious thoughts
- get dps on neck and bow thall add 20 dps, dps affects your auto attack and your ca's
- adorn your other stuff also. many of it is treasured.
- get haste item if you dont have one. there are several which you dont have to raid for.
- get all spells adept3 or master. lots of dps comes from our ca's.
- use finishingblow at the start of the fight if you know it lasts longer than 45sec.
- debuffing is important
- with DoN you can try to time your ca's also
- hightlight your target and your implied target. also turn on npc named target or mouseover, helps for positioning.
- bout concealment. serveral things can break it, however, use scraping for eg to get into stealth right after you casted conceal. dont wait that your autoattack swings.
- i didnt read that you use maligant mark. hell use it! use all your ca's xept slaughter maybe. i use it, some dont.
- get str as much as you can
- exacting is a nice shortbuff. use it when your ca's that get affected are up.

well.. thing the rest was mentioned. i missed something for sure =p

gl for ya, beat that other assassin! )

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Steelbadger

Yeah... I forgot about Malignant Mark...

Best spell evar!

Raina

Also what are you AAs specced at in Assassin tree.

Im at a loss as to how you are doing such low DPS. Only things I can think would be that your to-hot% is terrible so you rarely hit and that your tank is terrible at positioning and you spend more time trying to find its back than doing DPS. You have a lot of dead time where little dmg is being done, for an assassin to parse high they have to be contiuously doing damage and any dead time fucks the parse a lot.

My CA order runs roughly: Intox > Slip Away > Cloaked > Exacting (when up) > DoTs > Constriction > (dispatch usually comes about here) > oftentimes I hit Frontload here > Concealment > Crippling Strike/Masked attack (if crippling not up)/Finishing Blow (if I know fight will last >1min) > Stealth attacks: if decap is up decap > puncture blade > cloaked > killing > eviscerate > jugular > slaughter (if I decide to use it); if decap is not up - puncture blade > same order as before. After that point the Dots will have refreshed so use them again than misc CAs like contrived weapon and freezing strike spamming masked > puncture blade and marl as often as they come up. Also a good idea to

Reason you do puncture blade at the beginning of a concealment chain is because by the time concealment wears off (assuming it doesnt get broken sometime throughout) it will have almost refreshed and you can immediately go back with it. Also, you want to position yourself at the maximum distance of autoattack from the mob, dont be right up its ass. Reason being you can take 1 step back use a ranged CA, Spitting Asp is the best because its a fast cast, and step back in and hardly miss a beat, takes some practice.

What Ive found is that when all my CAs are down to step back and hit 1 bow CA and autoattack, gives enough time for CAs to start coming back up, its better IMO to hit the bow attack in that short dead time because your bow will rarely miss if you have good arrows, whereas autoattck will tend to miss more often and you could be stuck on an autoattack cooldown. Dead time is the killer, especially when mobs die in under a minute. You need to adjust tactics somewhat depending on the encounter, but whatever you do elimilate your dead time.

Cochy

DPS only affects Auto attack not CA's.


To the op, your auto attack alone should be doing around 600 DPS.
Also its expensive but stock up on Grandmaster's Elixir of Tactics and keep that running all the time if you can afford it, it will be worth it.

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Diceeno

youre right, was preoccupied, stupid me

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