Donagoness

Hoss, just stop, I know that efficiency equation, and It also doesn't make any sense if your recast and casting speed is <1 second :/. Honestly, the equation I think would best suit it, for us, is to just divide the average damage, by the reuse (you would probably / casting + recovery too but its pretty much a constant for us except one or two combat arts, one of which is in concealment anyways).

Run the maths for yourself, and then look at the parser and you'll see that the numbers you get pretty much aline with which CA parses the highest. The reason you have to take reuse into account is because our casitng and recovery are so small, that you can pretty much hit any CA as it refreshes.


While say if all our CAs were a 10 second casting time, you would have to choose which ones to hit and which ones to completley leave out because the higher hitting ones would refresh before you got a chance to hit the lower hitting ones, which is where your equation makes sense.

If your equation actually made sense your priority list would be a bit like this.

Execute > Fatalfollowup > Mortal blade etc (im not sure how you intergrate them into concealment doing it that way). But whatever

Run the math with both equations, and then post your priority order, you'll see mine is correct, of course.

Of course mine (using reuse) takes into account that it is going to be a fight of decent length, or a zonewide parse, and not some 30second - 1minute trash fight. Hitting execute on a one minute fight might outparse something that it wouldnt have in a two minute fight, but then again, execute is an exception to us since it has a massive recast and is used to get a multiplier on concealment anyways.

Hoss

You always seemed like a smart guy to me. You need to ponder what efficiency is and how its being used. When you want to come back and apologize, I will accept it.

If we were trying to determine which CA to research first, then reuse time would be important. In that case, you'd want to upgrade the one that does the most EXTDPS on the parse, which obviously is affected by reuse. We are trying to determine which button to mash next. The next button should always be the one that will do the most damage, period.

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Masema

Someone really needs to make a new updated AA thread, instead of having to read through this 27 page Argue Fest PoS.

Hoss

Send a PM to cochy and maybe he'll give you the power to create new threads.

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_Anonymous_

By the time you get to the end you have a new light on things...I think it's a great post for any newb to read

1) Hoss is an ass
2) Hoss is good for a few things - regurgitating shit others have said, but it does server its purpose for you, it does force you to think just hard enough to see the bullshit he's peddling.
3) You end up with what you came for, a better understanding of the AA setup and close to what you want
4) You learn that these boards are out here for every asshat to post on and that the ppl who really cared are now gone only the trolls remain for self serving purposes
5) That your best AA setup has external factors, raid make up, raiding style of the guild ... raider vs solo'er

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Hawkeye

How about the fact that you're an anonymous douchebag? Who the fuck names themselves Anonymous anyways.....

Vuetee

lmao.

he's obviously not self serving :P.

If you really want to see the AA setup, it's on the first page of the AA thread I put. There are some variables that people will pick up on aventually, but it's a good setup and everyone can use it and then tweak it for their personal playstyle. I have suggested a few alternatives on there too.

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