What about STR/WIS?

Stinkfinger · 07-02-2007, 12:58 PM

Someone on the other forum posted he went this and liked it allot

Basically, you got to admit as a raider, sure is nice to AE stun epics for 4 seconds? about stunning heroics that long while soloing? nice

8 percent increase in damage from the CA following Stealth and surveilance. (whos timers where cut in half)

He also said that he was surprised that he did not lose any serious dps. Said it was about the same.

Anyone try this and keep track of the parse? I mean not just feel or seemed anything?

Cochy · 07-02-2007, 01:19 PM

Looking at Wisdom their is no way you can't lose a significant amount of DPS. The 8% is ok but what your losing in the int line won't be made up here. Once the respec cards are in I might considering speccing to it but this line is seriously lacking in terms of DPS abilities.

Stinkfinger · 07-02-2007, 01:31 PM

you would think.....But apparently he keeps track of parse in his did not lower.

Which makes you think, no?

Cochy · 07-02-2007, 01:33 PM

Once the SOE servers come up I have some questions to post. I am not convinced at all that his conclusion is feasible.

Raina · 07-02-2007, 01:43 PM

It would depend on what he is parsing normally, if hes not parsing very high might not notice a difference

Karel · 07-02-2007, 02:31 PM

Just play with the numbers. Grab any parse you have and do the following:
* Substract the dps of Noxious Venom.
* Calculate the new amount of criticals you'd have had for that parse and do the maths for all your procs and poisons.
* Add 8% dps to Decapitate, Killing Blade and Eviscirate.

I did something similar with a Hurricanus parse and I lost about 200dps, granted this playing with numbers will only give you a slightly rough estimate. However at the time of doing those maths I was under the assumption that all your stealth abilities would give you an 8% bonus to the next attack. So you'd probably lose even more.

On a real raid, one that lasts 20+ minutes and with a group that has procs on you the drop on your dps should be even higher. Str / Sta might give you better dps than Str / Wis.

Stinkfinger · 07-02-2007, 04:04 PM

well I just talked to another assassin that told me he has not been speced in INT for months.

said INT is over rated.

as far as sta vs wis goes. Yeah mabye more dps from sta then wis, however, 4 second epic stun AE just rules. I mean who cares that you do 200 dps more, thats nothing in the big picture. But a 4 second stun, that can be huge difference in a raid.

I think i might try this

Uthtrakai · 07-02-2007, 05:07 PM

Why would a 4 second stun on epics be a huge difference on a raid?

Don't have any chanters w/ a 4.7 sec stun?

All you'll be doing is adding daze/stun immunities so the chanters can't do their jobs.

Stinkfinger · 07-03-2007, 09:18 AM

well I did end up trying this.

300 to 400 dps lose, per encounter on average.

Steelbadger · 07-04-2007, 01:21 PM

The stun-ish thing doesn't cause a stun immunity (it just forces the mobs to target nothing).

BUT an assassin is dps, I'm not going to water down my dps just so that I can play chanter from time to time :P

and 300-400 dps loss is big (although I think it would be less, the CA cycle would probably have to change quite a bit, and that would take some getting used to.