ROK Epic Weapons - Page 10

Raina · 11-08-2007, 09:17 PM

that still wouldnt be game changing, you cant count on a proc going off, so no raid is going to make a decision based on that, so it would have no effect on making us "more desireable in a raid". Besides the number of people who will actually get that weapon probably wont be a lot unless the do it stupidly like they did SoD.

Catseyes · 11-09-2007, 03:35 AM

bit late ,but i could see an epic with procs that land debuffs or/and skill increase (like debuff 1000 mitig vs piercing while increasing piercing skill by 50 during ~ sec )

aduros · 11-09-2007, 04:09 AM

I have to agree with Raina, a weapon isn't going to change our desirability as a class for raids. We are a pure DPS class, 'melee nukers'. Trust me, if you know what your doing, DPS in RoK will not be a problem for you. As long as you do the job you were recruited for, and do it well, you have nothing to fear about losing your spot on raids.

Gorten · 01-04-2008, 10:46 PM

i would like to see somthing like this

main-hand only
str-50
sta-20
int-45

80-340

proc: Overwellming Blow- last for 10sec
has a 5% change to Proc Overwellming blow, 100% melee crit on next attack, will proc 1.0 times per min
this attack must be used in the steath abilty
Must be flanking the target

somthing like that

o a cool name would be "The SoulCutter " or Reaper" , allso "Death Mark"

TheUndertow · 01-05-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jasinner

Anybody consider something to make us more useful and desirable in raid situations? I know whenever the issue is brought up people cry "we are DPS, not utility" and whenever we complain about our achievements dev's threaten to examine our game-wide dps and hint at nerf bat swinging. Still, when illusionists can parse in excess of 3k dps and fury's can do 2k dps while doing in excess of that in hps, we bring only a few things to the table.

I don't have any specific ideas but my suggestion is think of bad things that can happen during a raid and then think about what assassins are supposed to be about and then think of something this weapon can do to both help the raid and further define us as assassins. Just making a Soulfire 2.0 seems redundant.

I don't agree with the total lack of utility thing when you factor in debuffing poisons (but that any poison user brings to the table), our DPS poison buff (which is very nice at T8 Master and aa'd out)...and well that's the bulk of it.

If you spec down Wis you'd get Smokebomb which is pure utility, but we are primarily dps.

I've seen Wiz'ies, Conjis, and Zerkers all parsing VERY respecible DPS numbers and they bring more to the table overall (more so for the last 2), but a GOOD Assassin (emphasis on good) can top the parse most Single or small encouter fights (large encounter fights are a different story).

I would like to see the Epic weapon have a nasty damage spread, and/or have a proc like the Reet Knight Helm (prenerf) to really make the purest DPS class pump out top heavy DPS.

Gonzo · 01-05-2008, 04:47 PM

Assassin Utility challenged, eh?

Apply Toxin - Probably the best single target proc in game
Murderous Intent - master its 19% hate transfer from the high single DPS in the game to the tank, thus tank aggro management
Poison Debuffs - Mesh, Poison Combination can drop a target poison mit by about 4k (guessing)
Mitigation Debuffs - Squeeze, Sinister Strike can drop Mit a good amount (no Dispatch but still a good Mit combo)
Defense Debuffs - Squeeze, Disfiguring Strike (drop defense of target by what 60-ish [sorry not logged in too check])
Excessive Bleeding - drop Mobs total health by up to 5%

Not to meantion we are among the highest single-target DPS in-game and that above all utility we play a huge part in killing the fucking mob. I hate when people say we don't bring anything to the table.

TheUndertow · 01-05-2008, 05:06 PM

Good point on EB

Catseyes · 01-07-2008, 05:19 AM

i m curious about what you need in raid to overparse a warlock or wiz that does a regular 5K parse . Gaige was parsing 7k on PHH recently.

that's not only about weapons, or masters i guess ? timing CA on dispatch ? perfect group setting to over buff the assassin ? high crit and double attack ?

Helliano · 01-07-2008, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Catseyes

i m curious about what you need in raid to overparse a warlock or wiz that does a regular 5K parse . Gaige was parsing 7k on PHH recently.

that's not only about weapons, or masters i guess ? timing CA on dispatch ? perfect group setting to over buff the assassin ? high crit and double attack ?

Allign your Concealment chain together with Dispatched, that way you will get em up at the same time.

7k is pretty easy to get in T1, if gaige manged it on PHH everyone else will manage it on Tangrin...

Group setup, try to get an enchanter (illusionist preferable), because imo that does the most difference.

Gaige · 01-07-2008, 06:22 PM

I never parsed 7k on PHH, dunno where you're getting that from =x