Draknishar

Insta-death would have to be so limited it would no longer be useful in most situations, I suggested it come with its own combat art as a focus effect like along the lines of exacting but for our stealth attacks maybe, say so and so % chance to proc stealth attacks doing 30% more dmg or whatever isnt as "fun"

AoE immunity would also be so great in its own way.

edit: just remembered, best case scenario our epic is 2 daggers, in eq1 many were rewarded with 2 weapons that they could dual wield and warriors had the option of transforming from a 2h into 2 1h at will

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Satinah

I dont like the idea of clickies, i have enough self buffs to stack on and yea. . . removing stealth is not the answer. How about an uber stealth instead :D


5% chance on whatever the weapon is to do x10 damage
2ppm chance on successful attack to cast "disappear", lasts for 15sec.
-Grants permanent stealth to caster.
-Increases CA damage and CA refresh by 20%
-Caster cant be dodged/parried/blocked or damaged unless targeted
*must be behind

Not sure what else can be more assassin like then this and it sounds really good to me.

Satinah

or . . .

2ppm for 10sec. . .
Creates an extremely vulnerable point on the target
-Target takes 50/30/10% more damage if solo/heroic/epic (from anyone)

That sounds even better, some unique raid utility

Satinah

Meh, now that i think of it, those sound more like what i wish our EoF AAs were like.

For some weapon probably just a 10-20% on CA/refresh should be fine i guess.

Kokusho

I'll give it another go:

DW Piercing
58 str
42 sta
50 int
69-480 piercing
4.0 delay
250 hp
220 power
+10 piercing

1.8 ppm on any successful attack, duration 12 seconds
- Caster will double attack on 10% of attacks
- Increases attack speed of caster by 50

1.8 ppm on any successful attack
- Reduces hate of caster by 2,500
- if behind or flanking target

- Caster will absorb 1 attack
- if facing target
- if attack would deal greater than 30% of target's max health


Pretty powerful, not utterly broken imo. Damage range is probably a bit off, but we've not seen any T8 fabled ranges to really base it on so meh. First proc adds a solid damage increasing effect. The second proc with the conditional requirements adds a solid bit of survivability since when we're going full out we're a tank's worst nightmare. Detaunt tries to keep the aggro off us to begin with, the large-hit-only stoneskin gives us a second or two to ditch aggro before we get bitchslapped by something along the lines of, say, Prone to Corruption or some such. Would need some kind of restriction on PvP servers I'm sure so the wizzies and such don't bitch about it.

Overall it addresses our primary goals I think, which are, in my view, to crank out the damge while keeping off the aggro radar as much as possible and surviving long enough to bounce aggro back to the tank in the event we rip it off them.

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Draknishar

well specutaling on stats is tough at best also remember that the dual wield weapons will probably have the same dmg and delays as one-handers pretty soon so when actually speculating you need to think up a 1h and not the current DW also like you said we have no idea how T8 will even look.

So, probably better to focus more on the important factors, name and effect ( name being the most important, sadly I have no suggestions to offer here )

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razieh

Assassins are easy in my opinion!!!

2.0 a min
Increase all combat art damage by 30% and casting speed by 75% for 12 seconds.

Throw in some randy AoE or encounter damage proc and your done.


Btw Cochy is the best class mod on these boards ^_^

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Draknishar

AoE dmg proc that breaks mez and pulls adds I hope? otherwise we might use the weapon :P

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Gash.

Actually, i like this idea. I'd really prefer to boost our CA damage rather than auto-attack damage. Boosting dps thru auto-attack is so... bleh.

And AoE's haven't broken mez in a long time dude... where have you been? lol

As for the perma-stealth thing rather than stealth requirement removal... yeah, i would of course prefer that but i wasnt sure it would be realistic. Just making concealment a 7sec unbreakable stealth would allow us to autoattack during concealment tho, which would rock. I'm sticking with the Focus: Concealment idea tho because i think a proc would be too random -- if it was added to concealment or another ability then it could be better utilized with our stealth CA's.

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Draknishar

that part was more of a joke dude :P

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