What weps are you going to use? - Page 2

titanax · 08-04-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochy

Probably will stay with Bisected + Soulfire at least until I see some of the parses from people who already have a clearcutter or AoNO.

Are you using SoulFire as Pri & BS as a Sec? Is it just based on dmg ratio?

Mystify · 08-04-2007, 01:37 PM

If the delay changes is to both main and offhand, I will try to get Axe of Natural Order to pair with my Bisected Saber. If the delay change is only to offhand, I will try to get the Clearcutter to pair with my Bisected Saber. I don't know what you all think, but I really like having my weapons swing at the same speed, it helps a lot with timing.

Gummby8 · 08-04-2007, 02:13 PM

when i checked last on test the DW delay affects both offhand and mainhand
/weaponstats reflects this before and after you equip a second weapon

Pokie · 08-04-2007, 06:29 PM

I think that may be an error/bug. at least going by the thread the devs posted about it, it sounded like only off hand should be getting the penalty. But they may have changed it.

Raina · 08-04-2007, 06:50 PM

they like to do that, make changes and inform no one

Jayad · 08-05-2007, 03:19 AM

Planning on sticking with the SS and the BS, for now. An added delay to the weapon will only make them better. Shouldn't be too many weapons better than them.

Cochy · 08-05-2007, 04:23 AM

Picked up the piercer from Throne room the other night, will probably try it with the SS or BS to see which combo works best or if the SS - BS combo will still be best.

Satinah · 08-05-2007, 08:24 AM

Same DR as BS and 4:1 ratio. Its better then BS and probably on par with SS. Just have to test how much better and bust out some crit formulas to know for sure. I am really optimistic though. . . if theres gonna be a better 1 hander this is probably gonna be it.

Vsai · 08-05-2007, 11:38 AM

Soulfire Sabre for primary and Dagger of Purity for offhand will be my setup when 38 goes live.

the damage ranges on test are as follows:

Dagger of Purity 70-281
Soulfire Sabre 51-288
Axe of Natural Order 53-298
Bisected Saber 87-262

Using slashers will yield a lower hit/miss ratio (base on ideal end game itemization) and at 5.3 delay thats unforgiving. Primary hand slashers will cost you procs, and offhand items like clearcutter wont proc enough to warrant there use, especially considering your lowering the weapon delay and mixing delay times. Bisected's 2% crit is its only redeeming quality, 1:3 ratio 19-36 damage lower on the high end to comparable weapons and again the fact its a slasher lowering the hit/miss ratio makes this a really great bard weapons. *cough*
Axe of natural order... gotta love that damage spread, but wouldn't trust it as a main hand weapon compared to soulfire. Offhand on the other hand (bad joke sorry) could be viable, but i'm still inclined to say fuck slashers, and i really like the proc deagro considering i'm noticing these agro changes more and more everyday.

Jayad · 08-05-2007, 12:49 PM

Ratios ain't everything. We have 30s-40% crit not 100%

However I think we'll have some options that we didn't and that's good. The DoP looks very interesting!

I run without 12ish less slash than pierce and it translates to about 1.5-2% less hit rate. Not really that bad compared to using a worse weapon, IMO. Overall auto-attack compared to only pierce seems about ~2% lower, not that I maxed it out all the time at the expense of everything else.

Being able to keep up Swindler's really mitigates the problem a lot unless your gear is just awful.