Enhance Frontload

Cochy · 07-31-2007, 01:03 PM

While the additional damage to the non damage poisons is nice there is an issue with this AA not affecting Tender poisons as it should because technically tender poisons are still crafted and should gain the bonus.

Besides that this AA needs a longer duration or a shorter reuse. I haven't used it on a raid setting but from what I have done with it, it still seems useless.

Raina · 07-31-2007, 01:16 PM

They increased its duration from 15sec to 24 sec, which it used to be 30sec in beta iirc and half the recast.

Considering any EoF setup offers only minor real DPS boosts they all are fairly useless in that regard. I've had frontload since May and like it quite a bit. Personal preference I guess. I agree that it should affect Seeds of the Tender because the notes say it adds poison damage to ANY poison that is triggered.

Raina · 07-31-2007, 01:25 PM

to add to my post above:

If I had a spec that did not include Frontload prior to this change I would not respec to it. As it is I already have it so this new stuff is just bonus. Will have to do some testing but Id be very surprised if the benefits would be enough to cause people to respec to it. I think personal preference and playstyle will still be the main factors in selecting an AA build for the Assassin tree.

Cochy · 07-31-2007, 01:26 PM

Yeah I will test it for sure I just wish it was a little better.

PS: Thank you SOE for changing Murderous Design reuse to 5 seconds it is a much needed change that helps us tremendously on dispel mobs.

Raina · 07-31-2007, 01:31 PM

nice!

Stinkfinger · 07-31-2007, 01:32 PM

you say, all eof aa don't really add dps, but then you say you like frontload. What is there to like about it?

If it does not really add DPS, which I agree, does triggering Hemo more a good thing onces its already triggered? then it seems rather useless.

the added damage to non damage poisons might be ok, but keep in mind these don't stack how many other scouts are using this poison in the raid? (or do they mean ignorant bliss will now have a damage part?)

Since the damage poisons do stack this is where the extra damage will come in,,,,now the question is, how much extra damage?

Stinkfinger · 07-31-2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochy

Yeah I will test it for sure I just wish it was a little better.

PS: Thank you SOE for changing Murderous Design reuse to 5 seconds it is a much needed change that helps us tremendously on dispel mobs.

is the swashie version still instant caste?

I understand that SOE wants to make swashie better in every aspect of the game, but that still a fuck you assassin to me. Cause with all the advantages of they have, at least they could have made our hate equal. why not? other then to keep swashies better would be the only reason

(if swashies are now a 5 second cast then I take that back, but i still say we should be better then swashies at something! other then apply poison)

Raina · 07-31-2007, 03:03 PM

all I hear is waaaaaaaa when you talk

btw I dont use hemotoxin I use poisoned seeds which work better with frontload cause they cant be overwritten by multiple procs. The main reason I have frontload is to help trigger my Robe of Battle as much as possible and I had to go down the poison line anyway because I wanted the ignorant bliss AA since I tend to pull aggro fairly often.

Reducing the recast from 30sec to 5sec on MD is huge, sure instant would be better but for fuck sake cant have everything you want. I wouldnt even cast my transfer before on mobs with debuffs because by the time recast was up could only have it on for a few seconds and it would get debuffed again, was just a hassle. Definately be able to more actively use it now.

Ardain · 08-01-2007, 06:41 AM

Wow that is great news, the Murderous Design recast timer! It's really bad when you have to hold dmg a bit while waiting the 30 secs for it to refresh on Treah or other dispel mobs to not get aggro. It's also nice to change target of MD midfight, e.g. if you had it on a healer and then something goes wrong and you wanna put it on the berserker instead, so he can jump in, even though he was only there for DPS before the other tank died.

Frontload: So you say it's still not worth it?

Stinkfinger · 08-01-2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Raina

all I hear is waaaaaaaa when you talk

btw I dont use hemotoxin I use poisoned seeds which work better with frontload cause they cant be overwritten by multiple procs. The main reason I have frontload is to help trigger my Robe of Battle as much as possible and I had to go down the poison line anyway because I wanted the ignorant bliss AA since I tend to pull aggro fairly often.

Reducing the recast from 30sec to 5sec on MD is huge, sure instant would be better but for fuck sake cant have everything you want. I wouldnt even cast my transfer before on mobs with debuffs because by the time recast was up could only have it on for a few seconds and it would get debuffed again, was just a hassle. Definately be able to more actively use it now.

I don't really care what you hear,,,,,,

but you did answer my question if you use poison seed then yes I can see front load being better then if you use hemo, and mabye worth getting.

I think there are two types of assassins....one that does not mind being 2nd rate,,, and ones that do.

I am not hear to get in a pissing war, or start another swashie vs assassin thread. But I would like you to answer a simple question.

swashies hate transfer is equal to assassins,,,,theirs is instant assassins is 30 seconds. Reason?

SOE says yea I guess we fucked assassins long enough on this issue, them assholes got the point, lets make it more equal to a swashie, but still not as good, we will move it to 5 seconds, we don't want them thinking them as good as swashies. Reason?