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    That is fucking enough. Shut the fuck up Dav you goddamn idiot. I'm tired of you needlessly trolling every assassin thread into uselessness. Stay the fuck out of here. This is the first thread in a long time that actually had some questions answered by smart players and you come and try to derail it into retardation as usual.

    Go somewhere else you fuckbag.

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    it's not my fault people talk shit to me.

    whatever man
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    Listen, in case you didn't get it the first time: this isn't up for discussion. My forum, my rules.

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    What did I miss
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    Agreed. No reason not to have 100 ae auto all the time, or at least being capable of it with alternate pieces like rippt's 2nd pants/forearms/legs/etc.

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    Then along the AE chance I've noticed several of you are spec'ing the Stamina line instead of the previously preferred strength lines.  I can understand the reasoning here as you can most likely reset Assassinate with IPS before the timer runs out anyway, however you are losing 15% damage. Further I'm not sure I understand why recent spec's are omitting Enhance PFT in favor of reuse.

    I changed my spec around to match this and my parses for tonights raid was slightly lower than normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustSam View Post
    Then along the AE chance I've noticed several of you are spec'ing the Stamina line instead of the previously preferred strength lines. &nbsp;I can understand the reasoning here as you can most likely reset Assassinate with IPS before the timer runs out anyway, however you are losing 15% damage. &nbsp;Furtherr I'm not sure I understand why recent spec's are omitting Enhance PFT in favor of reuse.&nbsp;<br><br>I changed my spec around to match this and my parses for tonights raid was slightly lower than normal.
    Smoke Bomb + Obfuscation more than makes up for the damage loss on Assassinate, if you can afford the hit in crit chance.

    10% reuse > PFT easily. I notice I run out of things to click a lot less with the extra reuse, and that's even as a non-raider.

    Edit: I'm pretty sure Rippt made a good point that using Obfuscation on what is currently his highest hit on FFU would have been a dps loss over using Improvised Weapon. I haven't really experimented with it much, and only really use Stalk to hit Stealth Assault between IPS chains. Whether or not this is retarded I don't really know, I haven't done the math.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustSam View Post
    Then along the AE chance I've noticed several of you are spec'ing the Stamina line instead of the previously preferred strength lines. &nbsp;I can understand the reasoning here as you can most likely reset Assassinate with IPS before the timer runs out anyway, however you are losing 15% damage. Further I'm not sure I understand why recent spec's are omitting Enhance PFT in favor of reuse.

    I changed my spec around to match this and my parses for tonights raid was slightly lower than normal.
    Yes and no. You're losing 15% potency, not 15% damage. Since soe never bothered to revamp the old aa, it's more like 4-5% damage now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustSam View Post
    Then along the AE chance I've noticed several of you are spec'ing the Stamina line instead of the previously preferred strength lines. &nbsp;I can understand the reasoning here as you can most likely reset Assassinate with IPS before the timer runs out anyway, however you are losing 15% damage. Further I'm not sure I understand why recent spec's are omitting Enhance PFT in favor of reuse.

    I changed my spec around to match this and my parses for tonights raid was slightly lower than normal.
    something that the fanbois don't get is that the spec that i use or the spec that ript uses might not necessarily be the best spec for you.

    try all the different specs and reforges and use the one that yields the most damage for your raid/group and play style.



    for instance.. i loose damage with wis line. my parses are constantly lower. sure that one ca might hit a lil higher but i end up missing auto attacks or bypassing other damage ca's to cast stealth.
    not saying you will have that problem but in my casting order that's what happens and why i don't spec for it.

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    The only thing lost going from the Str line to the Wis line is a small amount of crit chance, and as Buffrat stated, a negligible amount of damage added to a CA that refreshes not exceptionally often.

    Smoke Bomb's top end via the examine window is about 1/3 the top end of Assassinate. I have a 2m23s refresh with 26% reuse on Smoke Bomb, and if I had to average everything out, I'd say on average my Assassinate refreshes in approximately the same amount of time as it takes for Smoke Bomb to come back up, if not a little longer. Given that Smoke Bomb is also AOE on a maximum of 12 AOE targets, it is hands down superior to Perfectionist in every way if you want to compare the trees directly.

    Obfuscate is, in my opinion, not worth modifying too many (if any, except for maybe the Stealth Assault you should be putting up every 30 seconds) abilities with, and will usually be a dps loss. The only ability I would ever consider using is Stalk, given that you can click 2-3 CAs in the time it takes for Stealth to cast at cap casting speed, and it will only come down to a relatively minor damage increase on the modified ability.

    Edit: Also, more uptime on SA with Obfuscate due to capped reuse on Stalk~
    Last edited by Liavy; 08-08-2012 at 03:44 AM.

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