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    Default re: Prestige Points - Take the LEFT side!

    I don't understand why there are 5 different threads rehashing the same retarded arguments. There's enough relevant information in this section to make a non-retard out of just about anyone that wants to play an Assassin, if they can read. The past 3-5 threads started here would almost be sticky worthy if not for all the bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rippt View Post
    I can't wait until gaige visits eq2flames.
    You ran the numbers and were proven wrong? Just too stubborn to admit it? I'm enjoying watching you try to crawl your way out of this.


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    Default re: Prestige Points - Take the LEFT side!

    Why would someone argue with Bffrat and Rippt!


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    Default re: Prestige Points - Take the LEFT side!

    Also for non-rippt Assassins.

    Here is a likely real raid setting situation that happens with left side. Take a 2min burn fight. You use your Assassinate with a concealment chain at the start, your assassinate hits which will be about 700-800k roughly since you don't have pft up and mob is not below 30% yet. If you get a refresh with the 20% chance you have, to use it again at the end then it's all gravy you will parse about same as you would with right's SS refresh+Bleedout+ more CB.

    now the likely situation of you NOT getting that refresh. Not only you lost a shit ton of damage from Assassinate being used without pft and below 30% bonus. You now also miss out on an extra modifier to use for a FFU below 30% with pft. You are double fucked already ....now take out the 100% consistent damage bleedout would have been, you are even more fucked.

    2 out of 10 times you will get the refresh and will do about the same as right side. 8 out of 10 times you won't, and your parse goes to complete shit.

    It's not just about the face value of numbers, it is also about how left side alters your CA priority and rotations and potentially fucks up your standard assassin routine as well.


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    Default re: Prestige Points - Take the LEFT side!

    Quote Originally Posted by ZhouyuTheGreat View Post
    Also for non-rippt Assassins.

    Here is a likely real raid setting situation that happens with left side. Take a 2min burn fight. You use your Assassinate with a concealment chain at the start, your assassinate hits which will be about 700-800k roughly since you don't have pft up and mob is not below 30% yet. If you get a refresh with the 20% chance you have, to use it again at the end then it's all gravy you will parse about same as you would with right's SS refresh+Bleedout+ more CB.

    now the likely situation of you NOT getting that refresh. Not only you lost a shit ton of damage from Assassinate being used without pft and below 30% bonus. You now also miss out on an extra modifier to use for a FFU below 30% with pft. You are double fucked already ....now take out the 100% consistent damage bleedout would have been, you are even more fucked.

    2 out of 10 times you will get the refresh and will do about the same as right side. 8 out of 10 times you won't, and your parse goes to complete shit.

    It's not just about the face value of numbers, it is also about how left side alters your CA priority and rotations and potentially fucks up your standard assassin routine as well.
    Except that is absolutely retarded. If it's a 2 minute burn fight, you ONLY use Assassinate WITH PFT <30%, then hit IPS and possibly get a second refresh, STILL WITH PFT, <30%. Stop being a fucking dumbass.

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    Default re: Prestige Points - Take the LEFT side!

    Quote Originally Posted by Liavy View Post
    Except that is absolutely retarded. If it's a 2 minute burn fight, you ONLY use Assassinate WITH PFT <30%, then hit IPS and possibly get a second refresh, STILL WITH PFT, <30%. Stop being a fucking dumbass.
    if you do it that way then your fucking your self out of damage. the point of having refreshing assassinate is the chance at having 2+ (4) per fight and if you wait till 30% then your chances are almost nill.

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    Default re: Prestige Points - Take the LEFT side!

    Quote Originally Posted by Liavy View Post
    Except that is absolutely retarded. If it's a 2 minute burn fight, you ONLY use Assassinate WITH PFT <30%, then hit IPS and possibly get a second refresh, STILL WITH PFT, <30%. Stop being a fucking dumbass.
    You should stop talking ......because that would be even worst. Now you are going to be wasting a refresh chance at start, leaving yourself with only 1 IPS chance to refresh Assassinate, and again in the likely situation of you not getting that refresh you will still parse significantly LESS .....but if you DO get the refresh you will parse about the same. As buffrat ran the numbers, even slightly less than right side in some cases.

    Since you are too retarded to understand this, let me ask you this question. If you could buy a lottery ticket for 5$ that you had a 20% chance to win $100 ...and you had the option to buy a 30$ ticket with a 20% chance to win$99 dollars. Which one would you choose???

    Funny thing is, you morons keep talking about how great Assassinate refresh is, and you guys pick potency endline ...then turn around and drop STR line because you claim 15% boost to Assassinate is not worth it. I seriously loled reading some of that.

    Best Assassin spec agil/wis/sta line with right side spec. Run with 100% AoE auto as a bonus too! (which means extra EW triggers )


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    Default re: Prestige Points - Take the LEFT side!

    I don't really play Assassin competitively, sometimes I play mine for heroic zone reason, but even I think the left side is better.

    600MA / 30MA = 20CB
    1000MA (if you can even reach to that) / 30MA = 33.33CB
    1500MA (lol) / 30MA = 50CB

    I feel these are not enough compared to:

    500dps / 20dps = 25 potency
    1000dps / 20dps = 50 potency
    1200dps / 20dps = 60 potency

    Since it will be hard to get a shit ton of MA and since DPS mod is uncapped and will continue to increase your autoattack damage as you get more.

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    Default re: Prestige Points - Take the LEFT side!

    Just as I thought. Mathematics dont apply to neo.

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    Default re: Prestige Points - Take the LEFT side!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rixan View Post
    I don't really play Assassin competitively, sometimes I play mine for heroic zone reason, but even I think the left side is better.

    600MA / 30MA = 20CB
    1000MA (if you can even reach to that) / 30MA = 33.33CB
    1500MA (lol) / 30MA = 50CB

    I feel these are not enough compared to:

    500dps / 20dps = 25 potency
    1000dps / 20dps = 50 potency
    1200dps / 20dps = 60 potency

    Since it will be hard to get a shit ton of MA and since DPS mod is uncapped and will continue to increase your autoattack damage as you get more.
    this is where you are wrong, MA doesn't cap it gets a soft cap and if you run the numbers 200MA over 600 soft cap is better than 200 dps mod over soft cap of 300.

    Right now with my shitty gear I have around 800MA in raids, if that a freaking cloak ever drops for me i will be well over 800 mark. Difference for me with the gear i have access to is 26%CB vs 37% potency. I choose 26% CB any day as an Assassin.


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