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    Default Re: am I missing something here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Snapshot View Post
    you reforged your cloak in to MA then reforged MA off your charm for casting speed then reforged your cast speed on wrist to ae auto...

    i feel like you are trying to throw away stats
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    Probably...
    Once I get a new piece of gear this week, I will do the same thing I always do, unforge everything.. mute everything I don't need, and reforge it all.
    I think I have done that about 15 times since it was introduced.
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    Default Re: am I missing something here?

    Quote Originally Posted by NANEEJE View Post
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    Probably...
    Once I get a new piece of gear this week, I will do the same thing I always do, unforge everything.. mute everything I don't need, and reforge it all.
    I think I have done that about 15 times since it was introduced.
    So did you loot your charm cloak and forearms on the same night?


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    Default Re: am I missing something here?

    Extra ability mod? How much do you have that you have extra?
    It's only weird if it doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoss View Post
    Extra ability mod? How much do you have that you have extra?
    Any piece with ability mod on it, is good value for reforge.

    If you do the math, on a BL or Assassin who have high end damage, the conversion you get from potency or CB by reforging AM into the stat you are specced for, you get more overall damage than what AM adds. CB/Pot are % based boost, where as in AM is a flat increase in damage, once you pass the curve pot/CB conversion becomes more valuable.

    AM is useful for classes where they have smaller hits, and min/max of their spells are lower, such as summoners, brigs, swashies etc.


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    Default Re: am I missing something here?

    Well, since the ability mod added is prior to the crit, it kinda adds to the damage exponentially actually. But /shrug. It's kinda how potency is added in before the critical is, therefore the critical bonus multiplier is added in afterwards. Ability mod is not added on to the hit after everything is calculated for the hit as you are implying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacck View Post
    Well, since the ability mod added is prior to the crit, it kinda adds to the damage exponentially actually. But /shrug. It's kinda how potency is added in before the critical is, therefore the critical bonus multiplier is added in afterwards. Ability mod is not added on to the hit after everything is calculated for the hit as you are implying.


    Do you really think I only added the base AM value when I did my math? Come on ...of course I took that into consideration lol. Potency/CB is worth more than AM for an Assassin and BL.

    Think of it this way, say you have the choice between taking a flat $500 or 10% of the total amount in your bank account. If you only have 1000 dollars in your bank then you will take $500, but if you have 10,000 dollats in your account then you certainly was the 10% option.

    Think of AM the same way.

    Also when doing your math don't forget to add the extra damage added by whatever stat you reforging AM to, such as attack speed (flurry conversion) and DPS mod (extra boost to auto attack) on top of the CB or potency you would gain. Since we are talking about very minor damage increases here you should take those into consideration as well.


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    Default Re: am I missing something here?

    i think buffat would disagree with you here but im dumb founded about how much ability mod i want i change my mind every day when i have ~2200 in procs

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    Default Re: am I missing something here?

    I don't reforge-out any of my mod now.
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    Default Re: am I missing something here?

    Quote Originally Posted by ZhouyuTheGreat View Post
    Any piece with ability mod on it, is good value for reforge.

    If you do the math, on a BL or Assassin who have high end damage, the conversion you get from potency or CB by reforging AM into the stat you are specced for, you get more overall damage than what AM adds. CB/Pot are % based boost, where as in AM is a flat increase in damage, once you pass the curve pot/CB conversion becomes more valuable.

    AM is useful for classes where they have smaller hits, and min/max of their spells are lower, such as summoners, brigs, swashies etc.
    You should stop posting too.

    Reforging a PoW ear you lose over 300 ability mod for 25 haste/dps. Are you going to sit here and try to say that 1.25 potency (and whatever minimal flurry/damage from the haste/dps overcap) is better than 300 mod?


    Reforging out of ability mod is about as dumb as reforging out of multi attack.
    Last edited by Buffrat; 02-16-2013 at 06:34 AM.

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    Default Re: am I missing something here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffrat View Post
    You should stop posting too.

    Reforging a PoW ear you lose over 300 ability mod for 25 haste/dps. Are you going to sit here and try to say that 1.25 potency (and whatever minimal flurry/damage from the haste/dps overcap) is better than 300 mod?


    Reforging out of ability mod is about as dumb as reforging out of multi attack.
    No I reforge that to AE auto.

    Most high parsing scouts reforge out of their AM, it's not worth it imo. You should try it, might make you stop "lagging".


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