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    Everywhere I go I read about how we should reforge MA into ae auto.. And I just don't understand why. Anyone care to enlighten me? I get the whole soft cap at 600 thing... But as an assassin shouldn't I be more concerned with increasing my single target dps as high as possible and my aoe dps be second? With that in mind, my crit bonus would drop significantly( due to prestige) if I were to reforge down to the soft cap or near it. Thus, my single target dps would drop as well. Not only that, but with high MA I do still get a higher chance to add another auto attack even though I'm past the soft cap...obviously. The only thing I could see potentially being a good reforging idea is to reforge some am into flurry...but I honestly can't remember what the ratio for that is..and if its worth doing..or if it's even a reforgable trait.

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    Others might disagree but atk speed doesnt need to be over 300 WITH raid buffs. Far as MA goes i personally dont touch it and mines around 800% which is 50% chance to extra attack and according to ACT is exactly that % not a sometimes 70% or sometimes 30%. Plus at 800 thats about 7% more CB with the minor raid buff MA added as well. 8% with EV. Without the CB conversion i dont know i might change but probily not. Sure someone else will have a diff opinion or disagree but my simple rule for reforging in dbl conversion spec is atk speed to MA or DPS wherever you can (which is NOT very many pieces) and rest into AE auto till ur down to a MAX of 300 atk speed WITH raid buffs. (Which is 200 with inq dirge guard mystic coercer grp) Anything past 300 is just horrible returns for flurry. Everything else i just leave alone. I dont know what your gear is like but im not PoW geared and that rule still leaves me with about 72 or 79 i cant remember % AEauto which is more than enough seeing how adds even on HM mobs dont last all that long anymore.

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    Default Re: am I missing something here?

    The advice to reforge MA into AE Auto comes from before the expansion, when most people didn't have the MA conversion.
    It's only weird if it doesn't work.

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    Default Re: am I missing something here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoss View Post
    The advice to reforge MA into AE Auto comes from before the expansion, when most people didn't have the MA conversion.
    MA conversion had nothing to do with it.

    Advice to reforge MA into AE auto was a flat out bad and uneducated advice. Pre or post expansion.


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    Lothelas, I have the same thoughts that you have on this. I may be wrong for it, but I'm sitting at 918 MA ungrouped. In raid i'm always over or right at 1K and getting the 7th attack which is nice. But I honestly don't see what I could / should reforge to, if I were to reforge some of it.
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    I have some haste I can afford to reforge, but not where to put it. I'm seeing a lot of assassins who are way better than I am with pretty high accuracy. I'm wondering though what you guys are getting for melee hit rates? I'm at 9% and hitting 95%'ish in raid. I'll check my parse to make sure, but that 95% is even in PoW and HM CoE fights if i'm not mistaken. You can check out my spec on EQ2 U / Elkana - Freeport and let me know what are the obvious bad things. LOL
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    I use the conversion on Prestige, no end line, but both starting lines and put points into group apply poison. That group poison proc does more for your group's dps than either end line can do for yourself, also you get the bonus of both potency and crit bonus buffs.
    MA for me max'es at 600 then I reforge into everything else. With my gear, I need not to reforge anything into accuracy as it's at 35%. That brings me to 50% in raid.
    I did however reforge into cast speed and reuse speed. If you have not got your reuse up, you should. This makes your ability to hit more combat arts in between 6 second delay weapons pretty beastly. Yes my aoe auto is 100%, but anything over 600ma I put into spamming combat arts. I love 6 sec delay weapons because I hit every single combat art we have, and keep them all going. It's really a beautiful thing considering every other class I have to play I have to choose the highest hits.
    Our class here let's us hit everything including Hilt strike
    Ya, some don't use that often, but for me, everything is about how fast I can spam my arts. My auto attack is lower than some I see in parse posts, but my combat arts blow them away.
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    Naneeje, how did you "REFORGE" into reuse speed? I never get that option.
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    Also, is your assassin Naian?
    Last edited by Elkana; 02-13-2013 at 11:14 AM.
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    Bandosi is my Assassin.
    Naneeje is my Pally.
    Honestly, because of work I might be slipping on my post, I may have just picked up enough gear to get my reuse up, meaning pulling all agi gear I could that has reuse, I'll look into it more tonight.
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    Default Re: am I missing something here?

    you reforged your cloak in to MA then reforged MA off your charm for casting speed then reforged your cast speed on wrist to ae auto...

    i feel like you are trying to throw away stats

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    So many scrubs.


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