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    Default It's not all Sony's fault that it's all dying.

    I go to bgs so I can get reasonably even odds for group pvp and people now do the same thing as in wfs -- they run or lose the whole point of being there 'to win'. I'm just curious...what exactly do you guys think you are winning? Tokens/faction for the possibility of better gear so someday maybe you will feel confident enough to fight? Or even capped out it's not about the gear at all and it's about winning for winning sake, despite enjoying the game? It is kind of crazy to me.

    Warfields are bad enough. Everyone there is either hitting towers and ignoring everything around them. Or they are zerging/getting zerged ... or running. Now the majority of Q's I see in antonica warfields are either 30 or 46 (and the occasional 90) ... so they can avoid fighting 39s entirely or gank better? There is no real pvp in warfields, people stopped questing in open world zones expansions ago, so even the potential for real pvp is basically nonexistent. 90s pvp is so unbalanced and broken it's not even worth talking about. I stopped going to tundra because it's just like warfields, except the tower guardians are now dwarves/giants that hit you back -- it's a match of focused pve action, not pvp.

    I really want to know why people go to bgs and run from fights. I can somewhat understand, maybe, if it's 3 vs 1 odds or if there are 90s in a 30s bg. That said, I was just in a bg with 3 vs 1 and guess what? They ran with the relic in gears upstairs over and over and over until I basically shamed them for it in shouts ... 3 against 1 and they still ran until they got over 600pts. To top it off I wasn't playing a crusader or healer, so why they'd think I would have any shot at winning is beyond me. I am perplexed why so many people go to battlegrounds to do this. The whole "I play the game to win, not to play the game" mentality is dumb for a game that cannot be truly won. All of you that do this in warfields and battlegrounds are truly missing out and ruining it for the rest of us that understand a game is for enjoying that moment -- not for validating whether you're a winner or loser.

    As much as I really am unimpressed with SoE for the bugs, the bad concepts, etc...this truly is a major player driven problem. It's something I would expect from a younger crowd like those that play WoW, but eq2 players are becoming more and more immature. Bizarre when you read gaming demographics and find the majority of eq2 players are in their 30s. Anyway, /rant off. Flame away.
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    Meh..... this stuff was going on before all the bugs started getting so bad and the BG community was quite large. I disagree, people who run only die tired.

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    It's SOEs fault for giving more and more options for running. More and more options for easy gear.

    Writs with ROK : Easy zerging for gear.
    Warfields : Easy zerging for gear.
    Flying mounts : Easy escapes.
    and now Leapers and Gliders?

    This game was great for PVP with KOS and EOF. Yes, there were some problems but surprisingly most were fixed. If you were wearing Mastercrafted gear in KOS, you could actually do okay against pretty much anyone. Gear wasn't retarded.

    So yes, it's absolutely SOE's fault.
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    Actually it's the community's fault, and SOE isn't going to ignore the majority when money is involved. Enjoy your retarded PvP scene tailor made for the customers it represents.

    Not that it really matters in the big scheme of things; PvP in MMORPGs isn't really that great to begin with.

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    Of course the community is to blame, but the community hasn't changed much, and it wasn't always this bad.
    SOE has just provided the tools so it became that bad.
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    The funny thing is, in WoW BGs most people wont run. In fact, most players just stand there and fight over and over and over and forget to actually play the BGs. Its like the reverse.

    While getting the kills is fun, the way the BGs are designed, you get 3 or 4 times more reward if you win, so people want to win to get the armors and weapons sooner.

    I tried as a healer to do BGs, but without PVP gear, I couldnt kill anyone who was well geared, so that made me want to just grind the BGs to get the tokens so that eventually I could fight on even ground.

    EQ2 PVP is really unbalanced, unfair and retarded. That's what happens when you add PVP later in the game and not as part of the whole design. The only thing I liked in WOW was the Battlegrounds, and that's all.

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    Default Re: It's not all Sony's fault that it's all dying.

    It sounds like the op should level up to 70 where most of the people are playing to have fun pvping, not running from everything and not senselessly banging on a tower for 20 min then logging out right away.
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