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    Default Raid group questions to help improve dps

    So, I'm in Mojo Rising, have a pretty geared out toon, EQ2U - Character Details for Sputnick - Beastlord (95) - Oasis for anyone curious - and I am usually in a mage group, no buffs, no jcap, occasionally a bolster, sort of like a red headed step child. Named fights I can usually output 500k-700k depending on how much attention I am paying, if we are jousting or moving a shit ton. I'm fairly sure my biggest downfall is not timing my CA's to mesh with auto attacks better. I probably need to reorganize my hotbars, probably set up some macros, and I'm sure pull my primals and advantages off the one hotbar and start punching numbers. I'm also in groups where I have to joust out for stuff, which I know hurts. And occasionally I'm stuck ranging, and I output like 300k. But I am curious what sort of group makeup I should be pushing for, and what buffs I should be looking for. Next time I think about it, I'll save some parses from ACT and post them so they can be dissected, and people can tell me anything else I'm doing wrong. And out of curiosity, in a mage group with an Illi, mystic, inquisitor, warlock, and troub should I be able to output 1M dps? Anyway suggestions, criticisms, etc I will be happy to take.

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    Default Re: Raid group questions to help improve dps

    Are you like 15 ?

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    Default Re: Raid group questions to help improve dps

    Pre-GU66, my BL could parse 1M from the mage group with fury, necro, illy, troub, and conj. I didn't get jcap or ROA either. I always parsed over 1M on most EM names unless I didn't die from my normal low avoidance, my pet didn't die on aoes/dets that SOE won't let it block, my pet didn't die because I didn't pull it back in time during joust fights, my primal abilities didn't excessively lag (which was most of the time once the raid starts doing over 10M, or a few key classes used certain abilities during raid), I didn't have to joust, I was put into a melee dps group, etc... Get the picture?

    You will never do as much dps consistently as the top parsers in your raid unless you're put into the best melee dps group (for example, brawler/pally/sk, warden/defiler, inq, dirge, coercer), and buffed/treated as if you were one of the top dpsers in your raid.

    If you will always be in the mage group, the best thing to do right now, if you want to be beneficial to your raid, is switch to a caster dps for your mage group (necro/wizzy) or do what I did, switched to my ranger. Now, I don't worry about all the issues I had with my BL, and can put out consistent ranged/melee damage, plus being in the top 3, or just beating everyone on HM fights.

    If you've noticed, no one has put up a new parse in the BL parse thread since April 18. The top BLs have switched to rangers, assassins, brigands, or something else with less issues. Good luck.

    If you're just raiding for fun, you've already named some of your issues. "I'm fairly sure my biggest downfall is not timing my CA's to mesh with auto attacks better (only do 2 in-between your auto's with 4 delay wpns). I probably need to reorganize my hotbars (yes), probably set up some macros (yes), and I'm sure pull my primals and advantages off the one hotbar and start punching numbers (yes)."

    Some more issues are your buffs (you want roa, bolster, jcap, synergism, EV, some others I forgot), some of your AA spec needs to be changed (e.g., more haste for pot, you should be doing 17-20% melee, and the rest CA damage, plus some other stuff), and your group setup. And why isn't your Sonic Screech (bat) maxed?!

    You will still have some of the unfixable issues I named above. Mini-tip: I also used to "cheat/get ahead" on parses by hitting KG, one other long-range CA (I forgot, it's a green or blue color), and then Evasive Maneuver right away on long-distance pulls; or just KG and then EM on short pulls. Do this at your own risk of getting kicked out.
    Last edited by Jrel; 06-17-2013 at 09:05 AM.

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    Default Re: Raid group questions to help improve dps

    Quote Originally Posted by smallking77 View Post
    in a mage group with an Illi, mystic, inquisitor, warlock, and troub should I be able to output 1M dps? Anyway suggestions, criticisms, etc I will be happy to take.
    Yeah pro tip. With a group setup like that if you aren't getting buffs, you should just find a new guild, because they obviously hate you. In that group you should be getting RoA, bolster, EV (debateable), Synergism, AoI, IA, and depending on what other scouts you have, even a jcap.
    Last edited by -_-Davito-_-; 06-18-2013 at 09:56 AM.


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    Default Re: Raid group questions to help improve dps

    I appreciate the responses Davito and Jrel. Maybe I'll move back to my warlock, or roll up a new scout. /shrug As for the issues - I think I had my AA spec more or less copied from buffrat, but it has also been quite some time since I went looking at BL's to update the spec, so I will do some digging and make adjustments. And look at my equipment and do any necessary reforging as well. So I can fix that at the same time. As far as the bat not being maxed, a far amount of that is being lazy when it comes to leveling warders. I still have my potion, so that's easily fixed if I don't go spend a few days grinding it out soon.

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