Stoic

I been thinking about this lately cause Clan of Shadows likes to self gratz themselves alot and was curious what people thought of it. I mean its great that ya killed something or whatever but it kinda makes ya look like attention whores. Now I know I will get flamed just cause I am in EC now, and EC isn't exactly quiet about server firsting something. However it is a server first. I understand your all proud of yourselves and ya did a great job beating a mean bastard of a mob, I get that and its great and I love that feeling hence why I raid whenever I possibly can. The problem though is being an attention whore is gonna turn ya into the one thing ya never wanted to be.... EC.

All I am saying is tone it down a bit. Link Server Disco's and let those people who won it brag about it but for the love of god stop making me vomit at all the god damn happy lovey self gratz!

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kaif

Funny how CoS is always the first to give props to EC when they get a first time kill.

Stoic why do you have to start shit like this? CoS has no issues with EC. In fact we have all been getting along better then we ever has. So you got to go and start shit like this? So big fucking deal CoS is a bit vocal about our kills. So whats the big fucking deal to you any way? So can I use so any more times in this post?

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Bruised

WGAF? The only kill that means a fuck is the first kill of any particular raid mob anywhere, and even that doesn't mean shit.

kaif

BTW learn your EC history, you guys got the server first like a month agao.

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Stoic

I got nothing against CoS really it just gets old hearing ya congratulate yourselves in 60-69. Its one thing if someone else hears about it and wants to say "hey great job guys" its another thing to go "Wow we are uber grats us!"

This has nothing to do with EC and CoS, I was just stating my opinion on the matter. I do still have the right to my own opinion after all. Its just a matter of propriety. Alot of people I am sure don't want to hear someone puff out their own chest and constantly say "Hey look at me, Look at me, Look at me!"

If ya loot a really neat item and disco it by all means link it so everyone can see how much more uber you are than them for getting it first but for a whole guild to spam themselves in 60-69 is well... bad taste. Say what you will but you know it be true young skywalker!

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Stoic

What are you talking about? I didn't mention any mobs in particular or anything. This has been going on for some time now. This isn't new. And yeah I do remember server firsting it because I was there.

Apparently your having trouble grasping the topic of this conversation. This isn't about who killed what first or whatever. Its about self grats. Your trying to read between the lines and see only what you want to see. If ya don't like my opinion big deal, I'm not gonna sweat over it but I wanted to try to clear a few things up because you seemed to go off on a tangent that had nothing to do with the topic.

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kaif

Ok your point is taken, less self gratz. Now back to you...so why did you say ?

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Stoic

My english punctuation is a bit rusty on message boards at midnight with a stomache full of jelly bellies and cashews. What I was trying to say was that me being in EC had nothing to do with this, I am not a fan of self gratz even if i am in the guild people are doing it in heh. Before I was in EC and ya see em self gratz themselves it was normally cause they got a Server First zone clear or some other thing and it got old however you can only server first something .... once so yeah your proud of that. When you guys got Mayong that was worthy of it cause fuck, its Mayong Mistmoore. I am proud of ya guys for getting it and pissed at the same time the Kelarn got my BP hehe.

I guess what I am trying to get at is that when ya kill something 2nd or 3rd or 8th in line on the server its just not as interesting. I hate to be blunt but it is accurate. Yeah people will be proud of ya but when your the ones cheering yourselves on is doesn't seem nearly as much of an accomplishment. I am not trying to down on your accomplishment either cause I know how much of a pain Gardner is. You get my point though I trust.

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Bruised

On the same hand, it just isn't very interesting if your guild is the 12th, 13th or 14th game-wide to do the same thing.

Mandehl

First off tonights gratz of the gardener kill was by a friend of the guild not an actual guildmate. So know what you are talking about.

On another note I don't see any problem with us self gratzing even if and when we do. Everyone likes to hear a bit of praise and let others know we are kicking ass. So gratz us, we are proud of ourselves for killing that it is a big accomplishment for us on the server. And yea it does allow us to make sure that certain other guilds hear of it and know we are on top of the server raid kill wise.

If it bothers you so much do something about it, I think thats what we would have heard from EC in the past when they had done similar things.