Timing auto attacks.

Fortune · 01-10-2008, 09:15 AM

So the general Idea is if I have a 4 sec delay weapon and I get my haste up to where its a 1 second delay I can generally spam my auto attacks and not lose dps? Can anyone post an ACT parse where they have gotten this down? I'm still generally low on dps 2.0-2.3 zw's so Im seriously dropping the ball here. There are single target fights I were I am actually able to parse 3600+ with the same temps running which proves to me I haven't gotten this down. (I simple got lucky and all of my CA's went in between most of my auto it appears like in ACT.)

For anyone who is timing auto attacks do you have it setup in act so you listen to the beeps or do you simply get max haste and not worry about it? What should a decent beserker parse timing auto attacks with Nathsar/Anaph be?

Btw My group is DIRGE/MYSTIC/BRUISER/TEMPLAR/MONK (Sometimes I get an Assasin as well which helps.)

Spec is Str Stam Intel

Epitaphe · 01-10-2008, 11:45 AM

whoua for someone who was talking mad crap in Vanguard as well on the Bazzard boards about how you would own the server of the current game you are playing it seems to me you are asking one hell of a bunch of noob questions lately... maybe you actually are a noob that can only talk... anyway accepting the fact that you suck and need to ask better players for help is the first step to improve.
timing auto attack is the basic that should have become a second nature about 2+years ago, any quality players wouldnt be asking those kind of questions at this point of the game.

Fortune · 01-10-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Epitaphe

whoua for someone who was talking mad crap in Vanguard as well on the Bazzard boards about how you would own the server of the current game you are playing it seems to me you are asking one hell of a bunch of noob questions lately... maybe you actually are a noob that can only talk... anyway accepting the fact that you suck and need to ask better players for help is the first step to improve.
timing auto attack is the basic that should have become a second nature about 2+years ago, any quality players wouldnt be asking those kind of questions at this point of the game.

Different person. I did play vanguard but played a Warrior and never posted on eq2flames. I also havent played eq2 for a year and a half and wasnt buckler speced dealing with DA attacks and enough haste to get to 1 sec delay. (We used towershields and Two handers back in those days..) As a matter of fact I honestly dont even remember using the parser ACT. When I last played the game there werent even cloaks or gods and AA's has just been introduced.

BTW any quality player should always be looking to improve even if that means humbling himself so the noobs like yourself can make these posts.

(I have no clue who you are but all of us regularly read Fortunes posts here as well as the fucking 10 or so pm's he recieved daily from all of the crazy stupid people on this forum...people like yourself maybe?? I was even guilded with Fortune on Vanguard when he moved over to our server so gladly remind me who you are so I can "properly" respond to you ;) )

Darkhain · 01-10-2008, 12:24 PM

A 4s delay wep with hast can't be dropped to 1s, nice try.

Fortune · 01-10-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkhain

A 4s delay wep with hast can't be dropped to 1s, nice try.

I wasnt sure on this but look at some of the other posts here were they claim you can... Max haste rating in raid was 170-230 with beserk accel strike open wounds ect and at 200 percent haste isnt a 4 sec delay weapon pretty close to 1? I mean 100 percent would be 2 sec's am I screwing up the mechanic?

Darkhain · 01-10-2008, 12:31 PM

200% haste = 125% haste effect.

byebye

Fortune · 01-10-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkhain

200% haste = 125% haste effect.

byebye

Ah thats why... so only 2.5 sec delay weapons will get close.

Toranus · 01-10-2008, 12:34 PM

Wow, posters like Epitaphe should just be banned. Dude go away if you have nothing constructive to add.

Fortune, in response to your question, timing is not that tough to figure out. The key to finding what is best for you is to parse while your attacking the same type mob multiple times, lets say 9 times. Using the exact same method 3 times in a row for lets lets spam, then one for a brief not quite spam and a 3rd for maybe a 1 one thousand count. You should be able to start to see a difference in the damage done.

As a berserker 60% or more of your damage will come from your weapon believe it or not. About 12% to 16% will come from counter attacks, . So even on the low end only about 30% of your total dmg will be from CA's. You make them as effective as possible by make sure you are using your STR AA line Excutioners Strike, and mix in your big CA's like Frenzied hits or demolish and its upgrade. Taunts are important but not as important as your dmg output so maximizing it is a great way to hold agro.

Also don't forget that more CA's you use the faster your power goes down so you need to consider that when in groups where your not regening to full every fight due to a fast pace. Zerkers blow through power pretty fast if we spam, so need to consider that as well.

Fortune · 01-10-2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Toranus

Wow, posters like Epitaphe should just be banned. Dude go away if you have nothing constructive to add.

Fortune, in response to your question, timing is not that tough to figure out. The key to finding what is best for you is to parse while your attacking the same type mob multiple times, lets say 9 times. Using the exact same method 3 times in a row for lets lets spam, then one for a brief not quite spam and a 3rd for maybe a 1 one thousand count. You should be able to start to see a difference in the damage done.

As a berserker 60% or more of your damage will come from your weapon believe it or not. About 12% to 16% will come from counter attacks, . So even on the low end only about 30% of your total dmg will be from CA's. You make them as effective as possible by make sure you are using your STR AA line Excutioners Strike, and mix in your big CA's like Frenzied hits or demolish and its upgrade. Taunts are important but not as important as your dmg output so maximizing it is a great way to hold agro.

Also don't forget that more CA's you use the faster your power goes down so you need to consider that when in groups where your not regening to full every fight due to a fast pace. Zerkers blow through power pretty fast if we spam, so need to consider that as well.

Yep this is how I started out although I still feel like I'm not properly timing something possibly as my dps seems low. I actually have it setup in ACT to beep at me as well when I hit the mob. In raids what are your parses looking like? Lets take Executioners Throne room what kind of ZW are you looking at doing this properly? Mine are stuck around 2.3 ZW on trash! That doesnt even count PB fight which has lasted for around 7 minutes or so for us.

Skel · 01-10-2008, 12:44 PM

Alot of it is also just luck if the RNG crits your auto attacks or some of your whimpy CA's. There will naturally be a flux from fight to fight even if its the same mob. Thats why ZW is all that matters.