Suggestions for the Effect on Your Mythical Epic - Page 2

Lyger · 02-16-2008, 11:25 PM

i'm no expert at ideas on what should be put on our mythical but i will explain what has pissed me and likely a few other zerks off when the mythicals hit the shelves.

while i was curious i went to the guard forum(yea yea, i dont give a shit if you think that is the worst one i should be comparing ours to, we are mirrored classes though and we are tied together in that aspect) to see if anyone was unhappy with their mythical. i didn't really see anyone in particular displeased with their weapon at all, instead i notice someone linked the zerk mythical and immediately people called our class finished. kind of sad when our brother class sees the problem as we do ourselves.

we are offensive warriors, i REALLY don't feel like an offensive warrior though when guards are chasing my ass on the parse, even when i full well know alot of that has to do with their buffs and procs as MT. there isn't any easy way to fix that parsing mentality we have grown so accustomed to as a berserker, the offensive warrior. what this does is burns into us that we are only marginally better than our defensive counterpart in the DPS department and severely lacking in the defensive department ourselves.

what we got was an offensive weapon, certainly not a bad thing considering our class, however the weapon is purely situational. avatars or not most other mythicals are good for more than single occasions here or there, in or out of raid. you have a zerk waiting for his moment to shine, the red headed step child OT, waiting to get smashed if he pulls aggro at the wrong time or if the MT goes down and he isn't 150% prepared right at that very moment. we got a shit role(even though i think most of us are fine with that), we got a burnt in mentality we only will be marginally better DPS wise than a guard 95% of the time and our mythical isn't to "myth"ical.

i don't necessarily blame these events on the mythicals, all zerks knew it was going to happen when we saw the guardian mythical as we have come to this bottleneck of pent up restlessness in our class, it was just a trigger that we used to vent all the bullshit we held inside for some time now.

our role isn't an easy one, one we chose, personally i just want some reassurance it's worth it and rewarded. i pass on gear for the guardian first, i put everything i have into my job and honestly i just want a hint of appreciation for it from sony, problem is they are scared it will imbalance our classes. i appreciate the guards and other classes who have tried to comfort us through all the shit we have been through lately.

somewhere in that short rant and epiphanic point of view is what i feel the answer is but i am not going to point it out because i think most of you will know what it is.

perhaps i will let this go when i have it completed and use it a while, but honestly i don't ever see myself thinking of it as an uber weapon and will not fix our class and its downsides/caps/duties/mentality.

Psykil · 02-29-2008, 11:17 AM

I wouldnt mind seeing-

*While Berserk immune to ALL control effects
*remove shield penalties from STA line
*Adding a buff onto our regen buffs, like +CA dmg or anything really would make regens even worth casting.
*Instead of 100% AE Auto attack, make our Open wounds buff group wide, this means we actually have a reason to still mash this button.
*add Double attack / crit to our grp zerk buff.

Really anything please, please adjust our Mythicals!

Shandreya · 02-29-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Psykil

I wouldnt mind seeing-

*While Berserk immune to ALL control effects
*remove shield penalties from STA line
*Adding a buff onto our regen buffs, like +CA dmg or anything really would make regens even worth casting.
*Instead of 100% AE Auto attack, make our Open wounds buff group wide, this means we actually have a reason to still mash this button.
*add Double attack / crit to our grp zerk buff.

Really anything please, please adjust our Mythicals!

The first one is a great idea that I think really fits our class - immunity to control effects while berserk. Replace the HP regen hate effect thing that does nothing worthwhile atm with that and you have a clear winner, don't even need to change anything just that would be pretty sweet all by itself. (not saying I would mind more, but I've long thought that berserkers should have some sort of immunity to control effects) Totally unique, fitting our class, and mythical in scale. That, plus the AE autoattack effect, would make us pretty damn useful for avatars, imo.

We won't get something identical to another class, even if it is our warrior counterpart, so stuff like strikethrough and STA line w/tower shield won't happen for us. And I happen to like the 100% AE autoattack effect, ofc it's fucking pointless atm with no AE encounters in the game but that's a game problem not a skill problem, I quite enjoy mowing down loads of adds ie at avatars, just need more encounters like that.

Lyger · 02-29-2008, 01:19 PM

immunity to stun/stifle/mez/charm/etc while berserk would certainly be nice, and honestly i'd love it considering our shitty job, but know what? i'm not gonna hold my breath.

Judist · 03-02-2008, 01:14 PM

While its too late for any changes, I was thinking recently that the zerker mythical would have been a good candidate for a "wield-change" effect ala wurmslayer. In short, you could set it up for the Main-hand or Off-hand use, with different effects for each.

When used it the offhand, the Mythical would gain a protection factor of ~1600ish (even tho its not a shield) and have most of its effects changed to things more defensive based. Its delay, spread, DR and ability to used as a weapon in general would not change.

This would be great for lore, allowing zerkers to have excellent "melee based" single target DPS (dual-weilding) while retaining the defense/protection factor of a great towershield.

It would still have uses in the Mainhand/Offensive mode, like when you desire the 100% AE auto, or wish to put out max DPS by using it in primary and have another weapon in offhand.

Yea, I'm rambling, but thought it was a nifty idea...

Lyger · 03-02-2008, 01:55 PM

that is actually my second choice, having it duel wieldable yet being a semi viable tank while duel wielding would be a nice way to be different yet still retain some of our plate wearing ideals and fits in with the name of our class.

Endoplasmic · 03-02-2008, 05:39 PM

*sigh* Another "I wanna DW" post makes me /wrists.

Be a tank, hold a sheild and fuck shit up. Don't expect some crazy protection without one.

On topic, Psykil the idea of avoiding control effects while bezerk is awesome.

Snark · 03-02-2008, 05:43 PM

immunity while berzerk is super op

Shandreya · 03-02-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Snark

immunity while berzerk is super op

so is the guardian epic, sir! and chime ring is almost the same effect anyhow, just a bit less reliable

Lyger · 03-02-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Endoplasmic

*sigh* Another "I wanna DW" post makes me /wrists.

Be a tank, hold a sheild and fuck shit up. Don't expect some crazy protection without one.

why not? sony has been on this assinine trip with every other class doing unimaginable shit with their weapons for some time now and obviously does not want any classes benefits to be the same.

plate tanks having more avoidance that brawlers duel wielding in leather? come on, you gotta laugh at that one

bucklers absorbing almost as much damage as a tower shield? lol

fighters wearing plate armor with full sized one handed weapons "double attacking" with almost every hit? heh, yep

they're all kinda funny in a way yet not very realistic, so why start giving a shit about superficial mechanics now?