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Old 03-02-2008, 03:30 AM  
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Default Re: Casting order of CAs on Raids

I'd suggest if your new, try not using macros for everything you do. It's a good idea to manually hit CA's after auto attacks or inbetween, but you can generally get a feel for the wep after using it for a min, and it can be very accurate. In some scenarios, it would be retarded to have a bunch of keys being hit if you need to type something or hit an emergency spell and your shit keeps getting interrupted, if you do everything of your own ability at the time it's needed you'll be better able to adapt to different situations. Seems like over complication, macro programs not really needed unless your afk or cant hit ca's in the proper time frames. Altho, far as maximizing potential i guess its possible in some cases to have a script more accurate than timing your own auto attack. Just think for learning your better off testing and using all different possible approaches to every encounter, not have them pre-set for you
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:19 AM  
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Yeah stay away from macros man, the delay inherent in executing a macro outweighs the potential goodness you get from not delaying autoattack.

This is especially the case with berserkers, because we do not have a stable haste mod like many other classes do. You have to micromange with stuff like berserk procs, open wounds, acceleration strike.

Best way to go is to keep an open combat log on your screen. Or if you don't have the screen space for it, get a long delay weapon so its very obvious when your autoattack triggers. (Gotta turn friendly number spam off for this to be effective of course)

Don't bother with HOs, the fighter-started ones blow, the only ones worthwhile are scout HOs and even then the benefit from executing the HO only marginally outweighs screwing with your casting order.

Because I'm lazy, I love the Nathsar, I can spam CAs all day. If I hit a CA at the wrong time my autoattack goes from 6 delay to 6.5 delay for a maximum 8% decrease in autoattack damage, compared to a 1.5 delay weapon going to 2.0 for a 33% max decrease.

You gotta remember that most people have a reaction time of like 0.2-0.3 seconds at peak conditions anyway, and dropping to 0.4-0.6 in less optimal ones... even worse if you're actually paying attention to crap like voice communication, mob positioning, aggro, and health. So even though mathematically the best place to be is 1.0 or 2.0 or 3.0, reality is that human error is going to screw you over no matter what you do. I think a better approach is to minimize human error, rather than feebly trying to become a human stopwatch.
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:00 PM  
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If im tanking on the pull ill cast turmoil jugg and OW if they are up the huge spike locks aggro pretty well.

As far as casting order slow,ikar racial dot, hate, int2, invasion, exec strike, big hit, big hit

I try and get the big hits in as soon as dispatch has landed to maximize how many times i get to throw it, after that the rest of them. and until recently if i were to get knockbacked mid fight i would throw turmoil again if its up but i got star darkened longbow so ill just take a good bow shot instead hehe. 12k bow Shots are suuweeeettt

Who else does this?? Juugernaut on pull??? What are you tanking t1?
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:33 PM  
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Who else does this?? Juugernaut on pull??? What are you tanking t1?
I would jugger / adren on pull on all vp trash except for wurms when I would MT as berserker.
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:05 PM  
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I bind wound/turmoil/jugger/open wounds on pull as often as I can. Sometimes I need to adrenaline of course.
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:07 PM  
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I've tanked pretty much any mob using juggernaut + offensive. It can be risky on certain named if you don't judge it right and cover your ass with other buffs, ie adrenaline, but far as trash goes and t1-t2 named juggernaut shouldnt get you killed unless your healers suck ass, nuttin better than parsing 7k dps while being MT
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:49 PM  
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Who else does this?? Juugernaut on pull??? What are you tanking t1?
If you get a good healer you can do this. I do it on nameds in CoA, Vaults, and Maidens all the time.
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