Fortune

So After playing a level 80 paladin in legendary gear and t7 masters I have decided that I'm pretty much done with my fully fabled very close to fully mastered zerker.... Paladins are by far the superior OT in every way imaginable... They have more raid utility far easier time with aggro if your ammending a warlock that is worth a damn and they have WAY MORE UNCONTESTED FUCKING AVOIDANCE THAN I DO!!!!... Im at 62 percent avoidance on my god damn zerker self buffed and this fucking paladin at 57 percent had more uncontested in non raid gear.. wtf is wrong with that picture??? The fucking legendary paladin was at 27 percent block in SHIT GEAR... I mean seriously wtf is wrong with that??? I was wondering why the paladin epic didnt have fucking avoidance on it... simply anwser is they dont fucking need it... My paladin didnt even have the god damn shield of the green dragon...

So to recap....Paladins can self fucking instant heal hold aggro easier and offer more raid utility... Why on earth would you want a god damn zerker in the raid as an OT?? DPS?? I hate you SOE for making me switch my main... A well played paladin should out tank an equally well played zerker any day of the week... That is so fucking wrong...

Mexule

just to say that you have one? i don't know, only nice thing is while paladins can hold better AE aggro on avatars, zerkers will do more dps and get the adds down faster. Pretty much it though, but would think paladin can get faster caster dps and compensate for that dps. I kind of wish i hadn't deleted my paladin, then again i made a guard from him.

the_mo

not much wrong with the avoidence picture imo, since paladins are avoidance tanks (+block AA anyone?). the downside is their lack of any short-time mit buffs (i know, they got heals and a ward instead).

while i havent seen zerk+swash with illy backup tanking adds because the lack of classes, i know for sure that paladin+warlock (+illy ofc) pretty much own the adds hate lists (unless another warlock starts dropping spells on new adds before the amended warlock does )

so id say.. cant do anything wrong with paladin+warlock, but zerk+swash _might_ also work (dunno)

Lizerd Keng

While I tend to agree, the person behind the class will make the difference imo.

Lyger

what made you think we were better than a pally?

Fortune

Well besides the fact that we exist in high end raiding at all would have lead me to believe we had some kind of fucking purpose... Fact is I dont know wtf any guild who is min-maxing would have a zerker in the raid when they could replace him with a DPS class and have two fighters Paladin and Guard tank everything in the game...... The player statement is honestly BS to me as there are probably a large amount of people that can read there combat arts and hit there buttons properly (Even time auto attacks and figure out casting order...) Fact is a good raid force is better of without a zerker the way SOE designed this game... Fucking ridiculous.

nissen

I argee Pally make great OT in this expansion. They don't have to do any dps at all. They just put amands on a high dps scout or mage and cast Holy ground ever 30 sec. Takes no skill at all. As for a Berserker it takes skill and DPS to get and keep agro. No little trick to get and keep agro like a Pally at all. So yeah its not the person at the keyboard at all.

Shinzul

I'd rather have a berserker and guard than pally and guard. Berserkers can hold aggro on AE fights well enough, adrenaline is an awesome ability (even if it's only for the absolute bare minimum duration), they get temp mit/def buffs, and when I was a zerker, I never got outparsed by paladins... I'm not saying it's not possible for a paladin to do as well in DPS as a zerker, I just never saw it.

Lyger

problem is starting to think passing on to a pally is better, i pull my hair out trying to control adds on the overking sometimes(when stun hits and you have to wait for a cure) where a pally could do the job easier. it's just far too annoying how much of a plain tank we have become.

temporary immunity would certainly help us a bit but i don't think sony would even think of tossing us that meager of a bone.

Fortune

No see this is where it gets fucked up who the fuck cares about your marginal DPS I can do 3-3.5k easy on my zerker. Paladin does what 2.8 if you really know what your doing?? We are tanks though in the end and Paladins have MORE UNCONTESTED AVOIDANCE... when a mob is 88 The paladin is the fucking better tank hands down.. No question he has more built in block than zerkers that block is fucking completely uncontested the mob could be 100 and if you have 55 percent block (Which btw id absolutley possible on a paladin.) Your realtime avoid is at least 55 percent... You know what it would be on my zerker fighting an 88 even though Im 73 percent avoid in raids?? Around 30-40 percent... FUCK YOU SOE... Any fucking zerker who cant comprehend why we are complete garbage is simply deluding himself... No matter how skilled you are the simple fact is you are not whats best for the raid as an OT... Paladin can survive better than you has way mroe raid utility and can fucking heal and self heal... We are hands down 100 percent garbage OT'es next to them.

Wonderful game design SOE.