Lyger

why? because i bounce around in what i want? like most of us it's hard to pick one way to go or the other and never at one fucking time did i ever point that i wanted both at the same time. now that my healers can keep me up during most any fight(even though i never changed any gear from then vs now except maybe a teeny bit of parry on an item or 2) it's not too difficult to rationalize why i simply want our ovrlapped abilities fixed or a simple snap aggro.

i have no idea why you turned this against me, i told the guy this thread is a joke. don't think i'm with him, i just pointed out what is wrong with his reasoning.

i test every aspect of the class though and to make dual wielding a viable upgrade in DPS you need ~75% DA to compare to 100%DA with buckler, that is how weak we dual wield. to do a decent amount of DPS a zerk would need to beg IA off of a scout and i think most don't realize just how difficult it is to get to 100% DA while dual wielding.

not to mention 450 shield level is pretty weak even for a buckler, most of the time i avoid tanking with my harbinger of malcontent because the hits are just a bit harder than they are with the virtue's guard.

our tanking is fine for our class(with the exception of snap aggro), it's our abilities that help us be zerks is what need to be tweaked.

Lizerd Keng

na I'm not "against you" at all. I agree the zerk needs a small change, personally think it should be associated with adrenaline. Either lower the mana cost (which isn't too awful bad already considering the strength of the spell) or make it so it stays up the full duration, or both.
I just see you fighting to get both survivability and dps both changed, and that's just too much to ask for. Any more dps at the cost of survivability (you dw for example with no shield) and you'll be doing the dps of a brawler or scout. How fair is that to the brawlers and scouts? They can't wear plate or throw up a tower shield to tank so wtf. Any more survivability and you'll be a guard. And how fair is that to the guards when guard is doing slightly less dps and the quote "defensive" tank (as opposed to offensive one)?

And if you are in the raid with a guardian then their hate position tool - recapture - is just as good on his hot bars as it is yours since it raises the hate position of EVERY fighter in the raid.

Lyger

actually i'm fine with adrenaline now IF the chanters know what the ability does and i think i've finally trained most of them to keep an eye on me now. 32 seconds of adrenaline would be nice but that is even a bit much considering how well it works when it is active. power is not an issue considering you can make a fight infinitely as long as you like with all the power proccing items we now have in RoK.

but what i don't approve of is our overlapping abilities like our mythical overwiritng open wounds or the ability to now more easily cap out crit % which also makes juggernaut obsolete while still retaining its penalties.

snap aggro was a no brainer, though we can manage alright without it it certainly wouldn't hurt to give us one if they chose not to recognize those other points i just made. more hate gain on our mythical is just a joke and we all know that.

Kirgoth

you stupid douche, don't think that everyone doesn't see what you're doing.
You made those other posts, seriously, and you came to the realization after being flamed and carebeared, that you looked like a retard in front of the entire eq2flames community. Alright, and now you make this, you stupid fuckstick, to act like all thoes other posts were all a big joke so mabye less people think your an idiot.
its not gonna work, btw
if this is not the case and you are actually that stupid, even moreso than already proven, then i would advise you to lock yourself in a box and suffocate.
directed towards tuor, if its not blatently obvious

grandmasterub

actually from what i've heard a lot of them have given up STA. with all the gear you can get and buffs the DA doesnt really matter to them. The ones i know are all AGI, INT and then either STR or WIS.

Pinski

Every Guardian who has their Mythical should go STA. If they aren't going STA they are the worst tank ever.

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Frogweiser

Maybe for PvP? ummmm AGI blows, and I curse the person that talked me into that when I betrayed guardian, it was the largeest part of my suckage for the first 2 - 3 weeks of transition.

Went back to old faithfull.... STR , STA, INT. And havnt had a problem since. Fuck reflexes in the A hole.

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Shandreya

lol true!

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grandmasterub

well ya i suppose it could be that i'm on a pvp server

Lyger

well i ditched STR and am having mixed results, STA is another story though. only an idiot of either zerk/guard would think they could do better without it.

early procs i parse higher than i was before but only if they hold steady, when i was almost capped in crit it was always a consistent parse so i'm not sure if i should work more on crit gear or what. i just hate crit/da procs, they just confuse us on whether we should stay below cap or say fuck them and cap everything.

as for the 120% crit rule on orange cons that popped up, anyone feel like explaining how more than 100% crit helps? i'm seriously curious and my parse figures don't represent a noticable difference to support that theory.