ameno

so.. Zerkers will still be able to OT just as good as sk's? I know noone can give me definite answer since exp isn't out yet, but I just didn't want to roll a class that will be out done by all other tank archetypes. I even heard that bruiser's will make better OT's than zerks after expansion.

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Lyger

yes, zerks will be replaced by SKs

Karsgaar

We're getting far more then we're losing, especially since they're removing the buckler requirement from Stamina line. In short, we'll still be where we are now and maybe even a little ahead, while Guardians are getting pretty much nothing out of the new AAs, but now SKs are competitive too instead of being the red headed step child of plate tanks. I don't care how many I WIN buttons a class has it's the player that pulls it all together. There are plenty of guilds that don't use a Guardian as their MT and have cleared all the instanced content (mine for example), even though Guardians are supposedly "THE" MT class according to all the min-maxers. There's even guilds currently on live that clear all instanced content with an SK as MT (yes, it is possible). If you're good at your class then you're going to have no trouble finding a raid spot no matter what type of plate tank you are after the expansion, where now if you aren't a Warrior or to a lesser extent a Pally you were SOL since most raid guilds wouldn't even consider you except as DPS/filler.

You want someone to tell you what class to play for the best min-maxing, but I'm here to tell you to just play the class you enjoy and get so good at it people don't care if you're the class the min-maxers tell you is the best class for the job.

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Lyger

exactly.

anyone who excels at playing their class, word of mouth will get you in the door then it's just up to you to perform.

fuck what people say because if i listened to every whiner who said zerks or any non guardian can't tank i would have left a long time ago. on live our job is more difficult bo still doable, on beta our job is easier but at the same time more difficult with the changes to avoidance but you live, learn and adapt.

Xalmat

And you gotta keep in mind, pretty much all uncontested avoidance (except shields in general) is getting nerfed (not just the buckler line), so it affects all classes, not just zerkers. Mob damage is also going to go up as well, due to natural progression and because mobs are going to start critting. Which means other classes (healers in particular) are going to need to step up their game a little bit to keep any tank alive.

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Epitaphe

i ll laught when the reworked stam line will only give 20DA with no shield restriction...

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*Hardain*

No shield restriction on Sta line? That's new to me, atleast 12 hours ago i didn't have any idea bout this and i'm in beta.

Fuck i need to find good tower shield now.

Steev

atm there's still a shield restriction, but aeralik did post on eq2players saying they removed buckler requirement and changed up sta line(and also adrenaline), so we're all waiting for the patch to hit to see how it's going to be.

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Culbay

Well, my first thought was "That is either excellent or horrible news", you really can never tell how they are going to play this shit

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Lyger

i'm not sure how to take it either, we may very well wind up with 20DA and no way of maintaining aggro.