Nektulos-Tuor

I think the berserker epic should have 10% Damage to Hate, and 50% AOE DPS Clicky.

so we can atleast be half of what a mythicaled berserker can be...


It feels like getting a mythical totally changes the class, I recently played my friends mythicaled berserker,

We have almost the same gear outside of the mythical, and his mythical made him so much better, it felt like another class!


Yes, Mythicals should be special and amazing, but epics shouldn't be that much weaker...

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Scorn

For me, epic was a two-afternoon group business....mythical was a four-months & 5/7 days a week raid business....

So, rewards were 1) fine for epic 2) Amazing for mythical

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Nektulos-Tuor

No other fighter's Epic-Mythicals have much more then they do, as in.

All other fighter mythicals have what there epics have, but weaker by about 50 - 75%.

Ours is basicly just the proc, it lacks the AOE DPS, Damage to hate.

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Garenth

You need to go look at the Mythicals for all classes again and realizes that they all gain 1-2 abilities, usually very nice ones, that the fabled didnt have at all. Berserker epic/mythical is no different than anyone elses. They all hugely upgrade over the fabled version.

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Karsgaar

I've got two Mythicals- Berserker and Brigand. Both Mythicals are massive upgrades from the Fabled version as they should be. The idea is if you're a non-raider the Fabled epic should be your ideal weapon as the Mythical should be if you're a raider. When you start finding Heroic instance gear better then you're epic, you might have a point (I'm sure it exists but those weapons are few and far between).

Like I told you when you asked me Talathion, the Mythical is awesome and I really wouldn't change anything on it, but I wouldn't say it completely changed my playstyle at all besides the fact I no longer use Open Wounds as much as I used to. If you don't have your Mythical you should be rotating Open Wounds and Turmoil+your Blue AEs to maintain your AE aggro. You shouldn't use both at the same time unless you know you'll have plenty of time between pulls or if you're pulling single targets. There is no reason you should have poor AE aggro control without your Mythical. No reason AT ALL. Rotate your AEs so you always have one up, stay in Offensive Stance whenever you can and you'll have no trouble at all. With the exception of only using Open Wounds as a haste buff, none of that changes with a Mythical.

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Scorn

I's a true point that earning our mythical made us lazy regarding crowd aggro....no more changing target, no more AE taunt, just let the next auto attack give a 3K to all those peeps, and everything will go back to you

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kunaak

its true - since TSO our epic sure doesnt feel very epic anymore.

it should be upgraded alittle to be more in line with the fabled stuff in the new zones atleast.

Epitaphe

NO!

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Centrist

Yes they should. Like another poster replied, the epic is a day or two of work. The mythical, for many of us, was months of work with a guild. We gutted it out through RoK and learned tiers of raid mobs, geared up people, spent 10-20 hours/week raiding, and earned the best weapon for our class in the game.

Lazy, whiney, stupid fucks that want stuff handed to them shouldn't even get a weapon as good as the epic.

When I look at the RoK raid progression on my server, I notice that there were 10 guilds that cleared VP. The earliest was in April and the last three in September (although one of those guilds didn't form until mid-expansion). That's 10 months of work for some of those people.

Why don't you just go buy your mythical? We don't sell them, but I'm sure some guild out there will get it for you for 100-200 plat with the pre-vp updates. Or is that too much work for you and just want instant gratification?

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Icebane

I honestly don't see any reason why the fabled should have more stuff added to it. As many people have said it is extremely easy to get, personally I had to take a break from the game to go through basic training before I had even hit 80. When I was able to get back online it took me one day to get the fabled version. If you don't like whats on it there are plenty of other weapons that you could use.