detras

Also what Masters are the most important to get? I realize all are important but with limited funds which should be first?

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grandmasterub

Thats pretty much true for all tanks... But um if they are that beast in dps perhaps you're just rolling with people that are significantly better geared than you.

Gear imbalances will always make tanking hard. If you're in T1 shard gear and they're in a mixture of raid gear with a myth duh you're gonna have trouble.

grandmasterub

YES time your auto attacks!

I like perserverance for pretty much everything.

Relentless Rage - greater dps mod... 'nuff said?
Hold Rage - no offensive penalties on a quick refresh defensive temp that gives me ~8-10% extra avoidance... 'nuff said
Unyielding Will - don't die afterword....

the others are all similar. Vision of madness not worth it but you dont need it for the endline which can be good but is kinda bugged atm

I skip out on the cyclones line since taunts suck bawls anyways. So they dont get resisted who fucking cares they give less hate than one auto attack. the only thing you need out of that line is the enhance reuse on turmoil which you can get to from the CA line.

Serraphim

Cyclones is pimp for pvp spec. Not that Ive ever seen you pvping maybe that's why!

Onedustinone

maybe from a pvp aspect but not from a pve, tbh i think preserverance would be pretty shitty in pvp also, its an all around shitty aa choice. The increaced range and taunt resistablity is AA better spent, because EVERYTING in the aa line to get cyclones is worth taking (with the exception of open wounds if you have your myth). and theres very little in the preserverance line actually worth taking..

preserverance is not worth the AA wasted to get, nuff said.

turmoil m1
o stance m1

only two that really come to mind.

most berserker masters a relatively cheep to get anyways.

Yes timing your CA's does increase your DPS, though its not as important as it is on a ranger.

My average dps for the listed zones
ToMC - 5-6k
YIS- 4-5ish (i usually don't parse this zone)
PoTA- 8-10k trash idk full zone prolly 5-7ish

and yes - Melee DA > MC > DPS > Hste.

Choker is nice yes, but considering our CA's don't relatively do that much dps for us IF you can get the neck off of Tyrannus in YIS i would rate that neck higher. im still doing some testing on the two so ill post more about this when i can get into PoTA trash run again.

If you have hate problems trakanon sheild is still amazing, if not then the sheild out of ToMC will do fine, you will get more dps/avoidance out of this than the trak sheild.

Theres a few offhand weaponds people like to use,

Nox notix- easy name in SoH
Claw of Khalen- Druushk in VP
Hammer of Swirling Constilations- Travenro? in VP i think.
Ekrons Blade- Elder Ekron in VP

Out of all of these i would rate the Hammer the highest for its damage spread and rating, but the claw is very close behind. Though i do not have Nox notix and Ekrons blade to compair to.

grandmasterub

lol ya i imagine it is good for pvp. i was looking at it more from a pve standpoint since this guys on befallen....

oh and didnt me a dirge and an undergeared temp own your whole group the otherday? i remember it vividly

The end ability of perserverance is pretty buggy and probably doesnt make a huge difference. I was just saying the line, mainly "hold rage", "relentless rage". and "unyielding will" enhancements are highly worth it, whereas I rarely cast my blues/stunning bellow because it delays my auto attack to much. and taunts are so fucking worthless i find no difference between them getting resisted a little bit less

Serraphim

I honestly doubt it lol. Got any screenshots?

*Hardain*

AEs don't delay auto attack when you DW, and with shield the cast time is about same as your delay.

Onedustinone

If you time your blues correctly the will def increase your parse...
They are our hardest hitting CA's, why not use them?

grandmasterub

I suppose its possible I'm just bad at timing my CA's I just found they lower my dps unless theres at least 3 mobs.

And Serraph

I don't take screen shots everytime I'm out skankin bitches.